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Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 09 May 09 08:32 BST (UK) »
It seems that it was only a co-incidence, but

That ship that brought Aime to Sydney was also to take troops from NZ to Europe in WW1.

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Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 09 May 09 08:49 BST (UK) »
Probably because the ship was still a liner carrying passengers in 1912 until war broke out and she was requisitioned by the New Zealand Government  and she was then converted to carry troops



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Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 10 May 09 04:36 BST (UK) »
Thanks to rootschat, and Althea at the NZ boards, here is some further information:

There is a marriage 1916 of
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VERPILLOT Berthe, Date 1916
Sex F Folio 2189 Spouse Arthur Norman MOREY


Berthe buried Picton Cem 1955 age 75
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Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 10 May 09 06:02 BST (UK) »
His enlistment papers show his trade was scroll maker.  This would also reflect in his NSW occupation as Gate Maker,  the wrought iron scolls and fancy iron gates were all made individually by tradesmen.

Those enlistment papers also show he served an apprenticeship at Coventry, England, with Herberts Tool Manufacturers.  This seems to indicate the famous firm founded at Coventry by Sir Alfred Herbert who died in 1957.  Perhaps someone at rootschat will be visiting the museum that Sir Alfred established and be able to enquire further on Aime's apprenticeship, or other details.  We understand that apprenticeship bonds would have included family forebears information.

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Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 10 May 09 11:25 BST (UK) »
Several Bits More,

1901 England :  Charles E Verpillot aged 33 (1868) with his wife Bertha, both are Swiss Subjects, and are living at 54 Mount St Coventry, Warwickshire.   Charles Occupation?  Watch Dial Maker.  No-one named Aime in the household.  Charles' sister in law is in the household, Ruth Venne, aged 17.   

1914 Australia - NSW - Sydney:  Arrived 2 July 1914 at Sydney, Mrs Verpillot from London on the Orama  (no initials found yet)

1919 Australia - NSW - Sydney : Listed in the Sands Directory (and for earlier years too), E Verpillot, 15 Barnacliff Avenue, Bondi.

Still Searching.

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Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 10 May 09 11:45 BST (UK) »
Wondering if there would be any clues on Aime Constant Verpillot or siblings any education archives please. 

Many thanks,    

NAME Verpillot, Aime Constant .......BORN La Jonchere Neufchatel Switzerland ......
 Educated at public school in Switzerland and Grammar School Coventry England
 

We have found his date of birth
as 12 May 1891 .

And the name of the vessel (many thanks to KHP on the NZ boards)
The ship is : SS Maunganui
KHP

And the date he arrived in NSW
from New Zealand on 17 September 1912.
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Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot
« Reply #15 on: Monday 11 May 09 05:08 BST (UK) »
Thanks to rootschat, and Althea at the NZ boards, here is some further information:

There is a marriage 1916 of
Name
VERPILLOT Berthe, Date 1916
Sex F Folio 2189 Spouse Arthur Norman MOREY


Berthe buried Picton Cem 1955 age 75

Just checked the NZ records.

It appears that Arthur Norman MOREY was the one who died in 1955 and I've located the death for Berthe Marie MOREY in 1969, aged 74 (making her birth about 1895).

Perhaps they have been buried together and that's where the confusion in dates has occured.

Nevertheless, it's a fair bet that Berthe is most likely Aime's sister and the daughter of Charles and Berthe.   This MOREY link needs further examination.

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Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot
« Reply #16 on: Monday 11 May 09 05:14 BST (UK) »
They are both listed on Archways:

Berthe:

http://www.archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewFullItem.do?OID=12038711

Arthur:

http://www.archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewFullItem.do?OID=12038711

There is also a file for WW1 for Arthur as well.

Maybe need to chase up death notices for them.


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Re: Fromelles Missing - Aime Constant Verpillot
« Reply #17 on: Monday 11 May 09 05:29 BST (UK) »
Re Arthur Morey's date of death,

I think this would be 29 June 1955, just done an elimination search adjusting dates for that 1955/23583 reference on line.

Presume I cannot do same for Berthe, as the 50 year rule would apply. 

I think Berthe Verpillot's marriage to Arthur Morey would be 22 Feb 1916 (1916/10960)

Have not noticed any children for Berthe.

Hope that helps you both Tim and KHP.

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