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Arrival of SPEARPOINT family.
« on: Sunday 10 May 09 20:21 BST (UK) »
  Hello all....

 I am looking for help in tracing the following family please....
 Ingram Spearpoint married Caroline Cogan in Eng 1864.
  Children are ... Ingram Robert b 1865 Bermondsey
                          William Alfred b 1867 d 1945
                          Charles Thomas b 1873 Bermondsey d 1953
                           John b 1876 Brmondsey
  now the Aus births... James b 1878 S Aus
                                    Elizabeth b 1880 Brompton
                                    Caroline b 1882 Port Augusta
                                    Frederick b 1884 Adelaide
                                    George b 1888 Victoria
                                    Arthur b 1889 Melbourne.
  Caroline Cogan is the niece of my 3xgreat grandma.
  I wondered when they left England and if anyone here has this family among their tree.
  Have contacted trees on "a" site as well.

   Tazzie

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Re: Arrival of SPEARMONT family.
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 10 May 09 22:44 BST (UK) »
According to the Biographical Index of South Australians they arrived in South Australia in 1877 on the Robert Lees 

SPEARPOINT Ingram  b. c1848  arrived as above.  Occupation Tanner.
Married to Caroline bc1847.
Children  Ingram [c1867-], William [c1869-], Charles [c1874-], John [c1877-]

I can check the South Australian births if you wish.

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Re: Arrival of SPEARMONT family.
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 10 May 09 23:01 BST (UK) »
The Robert Lees arrived on 11 Jan 1877 at Pt Adelaide     from Plymouth.

The SPEARPOINT were assisted immigrants.  I don't have access to the shipping records but perhaps some other chatter may look them up for you.

May I suggest that you amend your topic heading...it has the incorrect surname.  It has SPEARMONT.  Perhaps it has been altered by the Kris the moderator as I note she has edited your post.


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Re: Arrival of Spearpoint family.
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 10 May 09 23:05 BST (UK) »


  Hi Cando.....

  That is brilliant. I was hoping the unusual name would throw something up.
  If you can see any info on the Australian births that would be really good.

  Off to bed myself so will catch up with you later.

  Thank you very much

   Tazzie

  Have amended topic..... Thanks
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Green/Simpson/Underwood-Beds
Walker/Foulkes/Fookes/Fooks/Hedges/Lamborne-Bucks.
Stanton/Pattrick/Cooper/Fitzjohn/Holland/Spalding-London
 Rewallin/Underwood -Devon
 Casbolt-London/Cambridge
 Favell/Favel - Lincs-Beds

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Re: Arrival of SPEARPOINT family.
« Reply #4 on: Monday 11 May 09 00:18 BST (UK) »
http://ndpbeta.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/home
 - has a mention of Ingram Spearpoint in 1894 - charged in South Brisbane with deserting his wife, Caroline, ordered to pay 10s a week for her support.
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Re: Arrival of SPEARPOINT family.
« Reply #5 on: Monday 11 May 09 00:20 BST (UK) »
Births is South Australia - with some obvious mistranscriptions.  This is the only SPEARPOINT family in the SA Birth indexes.

SPEARPOINT James
12 Mar 1878
Father Ingram SPEARPOINT   Mother Caroline Isabella LOGAN
At Bowden              Ref   Hin 198/147

SPEARPOINT Elizabeth
30 Apr 1880
Father Ingram SPEARPOINT   Mother Caroline COGAN
At Brompton Park     Ref  Hin 241/88

SHIERPOINT Caroline
25 Nov 1882
Father Ingram SHIERPOINT    Mother Caroline COGNOR
At  Port Augusta   Ref  Fro 294/495

SPEARPOINT Frederick
19 Sep 1884
Father Ingram SPEARPOINT  Mother  Caroline LLOYD
At Paradise   Ref Nor 336/279

Victoria

Birth
SPEARPOINT George
Father Ingram   Mother Caroline Isabella COGHAN
At Brunswick  1888  Reg#998

Death
SPEARPOINT George
Father Ingram  Mother Carol COGHILL
3 months    At Brunswick  1888  Reg#4810

Birth
SPEARPOINT Arthur
Father Ingram   Mother Carol COGHILL
At Brunswick   1889  Reg#10042

SPEARPOINT Arthur
Father Ingram Mother Carol COGAN
9 months  at Brunswick  1890  Reg#712

Marriage
SPEARPOINT William Alfred
MIDLAND  Maria
1889  Reg#7294


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Re: Arrival of SPEARPOINT family.
« Reply #6 on: Monday 11 May 09 00:38 BST (UK) »
A few names I noticed on the electoral rolls 1900-1936 [not all years available]

New South Wales
1903
SPEARPOINT
Caroline Off Bay Road, North Sydney  Domestic duties
SPEARPOINT Ingram [no street address]  Willoughby  Labourer
SPEARPOINT John  High Street, Willoughby   Currier 

1919 Victoria
SPEARPOINT Ingram 283 Lyttleton Terrace, Bendigo   Occupation - Hawker

1936  New South Wales
SPEARPOINT James Ingram  28 Ridge Street, North Sydney  Occupation - Labourer
SPEARPOINT Frederick  9 Euroke Street, North Sydney - Labourer

If you search here you will see quite  few of the family bdm's
http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/familyHistory/search.htm

Could be Caroline's death

6030/1924     
SPEARPOINT   Caroline I
Father Robert Mother Caroline              
District Chatswood.

Burial record
http://www.maccem.com.au/search.html
SPEARPOINT      Caroline I      
Burial       Location COE/C3/0049      
21 May 1924

and for your records, possibly son Frederick but the death reg has father Frederick and mother Caroline...could be incorrect as knowledge on death certs only as good as knowledge of the informant...and we all know how that can vary!!

SPEARPOINT    Frederick     
Burial      Location COE/E12/0015     
28 May 1969

Death in Victoria
SPEARPOINT Ingram
Father Unknown  Mother Unknown  UNKNOWN
At Bendigo  73 years   1921  Reg#4408

And his burial record
SPEARPOINT, Ingram
    * Date of Death: not available
    * Date of Burial: 28/05/1921
    * Interment Number: 025076
    * Cemetery: Bendigo
    * Section: MON E1
    * Grave Number: 25076

See what else I can find.

Cheers
Cando

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Re: Arrival of SPEARPOINT family.
« Reply #7 on: Monday 11 May 09 00:48 BST (UK) »

John b 1876 Brmondsey
3869/1938     
SPEARPOINT John
Father Ingram  Mother Caroline
District Rozelle

I can see more family here
http://bdmhistoricalrecords.identityservices.govt.nz/search/




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Re: Arrival of SPEARPOINT family.
« Reply #8 on: Monday 11 May 09 02:38 BST (UK) »
A snippet more

New South Wales Police Gazette 1893
A warrant has been issued by the North Sydney Bench for the arrest of Ingram Spearpoint charged with wife desertion.  He is 46 years of age, 5 feet 6 inches high, medium build, brown hair, blue eyes, fully brown beard and moustache; dressed in a dark sac suit; a currier; an Englishman.  May be employed at a fellmongery. 
Complainant, Caroline Spearpoint, High Street, Willoughby.

Queensland Police Gazette  1894
South Brisbane.  Ingram Spearpoint is charged, on warrant issued by the South Brisbane Bench, with having about the 8th instant, deserted his wife, Caroline, care of Mrs Giecke, Broadwater Tannery, Mount Gravatt.
Description:  An Englishman about 47 years of age, 5 feet 6 or 7 inches high, stout build, broad shoulders, dark complexion, blue eyes, dark hair turning grey, dark brown moustache only, minus a front tooth.
Supposed to have gone to Rockhampton.
23 Apr 1894.

Victorian Sands & Macdougall Directory 1892
SPEARPOINT Ingram  Ranglan Street, South Preston

NSW Wise PO DIrectory 1904
SPEARPOINT Mrs  Hill Street, North Sydney
SPEARPOINT John,   Herbert Street, Willoughby

1913 NSW Sands Directory
SPEARPOINT John  141 Holternan Street, North Sydney

Cheers
Cando
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