help/advise needed William Cowie born 3/8/1907 in thirsk Yorkshire

[gmh]

i have my wifes grandfather birth certificate
William Cowie born 3/8/1907 in thirsk Yorkshire
parents James Watson Cowie/Sarah Jane Cowie nee Ward.
i have their wedding cert married  in Whitby 28/10/1902.
i can trace the mothers side but the father(James Watson Cowie) is proving difficult.
i can find a James Watson cowie on the 1881 census rg11-5206/80 pg30.after this there is no trace on 1891/1901/1911 census.the wedding cert quotes James Watson cowies father as James occupation possibly as a grocer.
Any help/ideas would be much appreciated

[charlotteCH]

The idea that first springs to mind is that his surname may have been mistranscribed.... and I've been wondering what may have been written as Cowey? Cowee?   or the C has been turned into something else.
None of this is much help- sorry but it is odd to have him in 1881 then gone- and if he was grocer you'd think he'd be tied to his shop... but maybe he was not a master grocer but the employee of a grocer so may have moved.

Thinking aloud there.
How old was James Watson Cowie in 1881?

charlotte

[Necromancer]

2 Birth Index entries - 1881, Kendal, spelled Cowie.

and 1883 Sunderland: Durham Tyne & Wear - spelled Cowey - and a death entry for this chap ...

so the 1881 census is the first BMD shown above ..

wheres he gone then 

[Suttonrog]

All the information is there on the 81 census.

Father of James Watson (aged 4 months) is James, 33, widower, coachman b Ipswich

Seacrhing for him on the 71 census, he is married to Catherins S and living with father inlaw Luce so I suspect that a search for the marriage will show that Catherine is nee Luce.

Rog

[Necromancer]

enumerated as Joseph W on the 1891 - father James, a coachman born Suffolk as per 1881 ..

RG12/3481; Folio 22; Page 8

[trish1120]

there is a marriage;

James COWIE
Catharine Isabella LEECE
December 1870
Kendal
8e 1049

[trish1120]

Death;

Catherine Isabella COWIE
March 1881
Kendal
10b 243 and 10b 423
Aged 34

[Necromancer]

James Snr is a gardener in Poulton Le Fylde in 1901 - RG13/3978; Folio: 47; Page: 21

cant see Jnr - at least using a Westmorland PoB - yet ......

[Necromancer]

think this is him ..

1901 - RG13/3962; Folio: 93; Page: 49 - Preston
Pedders Lane, Ashton Park Stables

Fred Bell    21 Head Groom Cheshire
Joseph H H Cowie    18  Servant Westmoreland, Windemere

damnit   

Births Dec 1882   
 
Cowie  Joseph Henry H    Kendal  10b 669

hmmm, so where was he in 1891 .......