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Re: Frederick David Sudds Thanet?
« Reply #9 on: Friday 26 June 09 15:35 BST (UK) »
Hi Shane,

I think the birth cert of Lilian is a must ;)
What is Mary. J's age in 1911 Census ?

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Re: Frederick David Sudds Thanet?
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 28 June 09 12:05 BST (UK) »
Hi Trish, mary is 36 on 1911.
thanks. shane.
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Pennell, thanet, Faversham

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Re: Frederick David Sudds Thanet?
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 28 June 09 12:17 BST (UK) »
It could be the same mary j as in the 1891 census only 3 years out.
looks like the birth cert is a must now. Ive recenly made contact with some sudds family through this site so i'll ask them in the mean time. The only thing bugging me is why she listed f d sudds as father (deceaced) on marriage cert if this was not the case?.
thanks.shane.
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Re: Frederick David Sudds Thanet?
« Reply #12 on: Monday 29 June 09 14:44 BST (UK) »
Hi Shane,

The birth cert hopefully will reveal all :)
It was not unusaul for illegitimate people to put a fake Fathers name on their marrige cert.

Cheers,
Trish
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Re: Frederick David Sudds Thanet?
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 15 July 09 13:52 BST (UK) »
Hi Shane,

 My father (b 1913) lived with his ' gran' Mary Sudds who married George Ansell in Faversham. He talked of George's brother ' Bob' Ansell also living there.

I still know some of the family of Lilian Sudds and Richard (Dick) Pennell. My dad talked of Lilian as a cousin.
 
I think the Frederick Sudds shown as ' grand son' on the 1891 census - residing at Florence Terrace Ramsgate - may be my grandfather but I would say he was aged 1 at this time and not 10 as shown.....we are still searching this out.

Lilian's birth cert should certainly help.

Cheers
Fred



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Re: Frederick David Sudds Thanet?
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 15 July 09 14:49 BST (UK) »
Welcome Fred :)

Hopefully this all can be sorted out !

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Re: Frederick David Sudds Thanet?
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 15 July 09 14:54 BST (UK) »
Hi Fred

Welcome to Rootschat

I would say that the Frederick (grandson) in the 1891 census is definitely a baby ie. it says 1 ..... month(s) thus 1 or 4 or 11 months would be my guess ;)

Casalguidi :)

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Re: Frederick David Sudds Thanet?
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 15 July 09 15:39 BST (UK) »
Hi Fred, nice to hear from you, ive still not ordered lillians birth certificate yet, but i believe that the frederick david sudds mentioned on her marriage certificate as father is not correct, hopefully i will order it over the weekend if i get time. I will post the results when they come,
many thanks, good health,
shane.
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Pennell, thanet, Faversham

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Re: Frederick David Sudds Thanet?
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 25 July 09 13:54 BST (UK) »
Hi everyone, just got lillians birth today, born 5 oct 1901 minster union workhouse thanet, mother Jessie Florence Sudds ( mary j sister) dom servent of12 portland court ramsgate, father not mentioned, informent jessie of union workhouse minster.
So as thought illegitemate.
i have found a jessie marriage in 1902 to either george debling or james marshall. Her parents are john joseph sudds born hull 1849 and hester kirby born 1850 canterbury, i have both back to 1871 on censuses and john in 1851 but nothing on hester (esther) before she married,
Again many thanks for your help.
 Kushti Bokt, shane.
Baker, kent
Goldsmith, kent
Perfect, kent
Rattigan, moate eire
Pennell, thanet, Faversham