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Offline janan

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NEAL Southill
« on: Thursday 21 May 09 15:32 BST (UK) »
Hi

I have been searching for a marriage for George NEWELL to Mary ?? c1742 who went on to have children in Wrestlingworth see

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,269376.0.html

I have just found this marriage

George NEAL to Mary WOOLHEAD 21 AUG 1736  Southill,

which looks possible although a little early as there first known child was baptised in 1743. Really looking to find any other info on this couple to discount them or otherwise.

I can't see any NEAL activity in Southill or any children for a George and Mary NEAL anywhere in Bedfordshire in the right time frame on the IGI

Thanks
Jan ;)
 
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bedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell
buckinghamshire- pain
cambridgeshire- bird, carver
hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey
derbyshire- allsop, noon
devon - griffin, love, rapsey
dorset- rendall, gale
somerset- rendall, churchill
surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge

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Re: NEAL Southill
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 21 May 09 15:55 BST (UK) »
Hi Jan

I agree - there are no other Neals, Newells or Woolheads, in Southill at around this time. Nor burials. In the dreaded black hole, Southill Baptist Church book, there was a "Brother Neal" added to the church on 31 Oct 1723, but he's never mentioned again. Unfortunately there's no more detail shown in the transcript for the marriage

Which doesn't exactly add very much at all!

David
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Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey/Rook
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey/Rook
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:   Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs: Bourn: Bowd
            Eltisley: Medlock
            Graveley: Ford/Revell

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Re: NEAL Southill
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 21 May 09 16:16 BST (UK) »
Hi David


Which doesn't exactly add very much at all!


No, but thanks for checking anyway. They will have to remain possibles.

Jan ;)
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bedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell
buckinghamshire- pain
cambridgeshire- bird, carver
hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey
derbyshire- allsop, noon
devon - griffin, love, rapsey
dorset- rendall, gale
somerset- rendall, churchill
surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge

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Re: NEAL Southill
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 21 May 09 22:07 BST (UK) »
hello Jan,

from the Monumental Inscriptions of St Peter's,Wrestlingworth surveyed in 1914 & transcribed by the Beds FHS in 2004

K104 - Headstone, In memory of Mary, the wife of George Newell who died January 10th 1769 aged 48

K105 - Headstone In memory of George Newell who died June 2 1770 aged 52

I expect these are the subjects of this thread.

There is a Neal in the MI's of Southill All Saints but thats much later than you are looking for now...

In memory of Elizabeth Neal the wife of Samuel Neal who departed this life Jan 15th 1830 aged 57 years.

regards John
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Re: NEAL Southill
« Reply #4 on: Friday 22 May 09 09:38 BST (UK) »
Hi John

Yes the MI's are for my George and Mary. I did have them but thank you for posting them as it has redrawn my attention to their ages - to marry in 1736 they would have both been under the age of consent. I need to try and find a Mary WOOLHEAD of right age, did she come from Southill, if not did they perhaps marry there because they didn't have consent, are there any children for George and Mary NEAL/NEWELL prior to 1743 in intervening parishes  and of course is there an actual George NEAL? Also have to put this on my list for Blars as the witnesses may be helpful.

Thanks also for checking the Southill MI's the lack of Neals in the parish from your and David's searches does look promising.

Jan ;)
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bedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell
buckinghamshire- pain
cambridgeshire- bird, carver
hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey
derbyshire- allsop, noon
devon - griffin, love, rapsey
dorset- rendall, gale
somerset- rendall, churchill
surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge

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Re: NEAL Southill
« Reply #5 on: Friday 22 May 09 10:32 BST (UK) »
There's only one other Woolhead in Southill PR and that was a marriage of Thomas in 1589. But I can't see an obvious Mary baptism anywhere close by Southill. The marriage entry is unlikely to be of much help as there were no witnesses pre 1754 - any other detail is in the transcript, and there's nothing!

David
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey/Rook
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey/Rook
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:   Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs: Bourn: Bowd
            Eltisley: Medlock
            Graveley: Ford/Revell

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Re: NEAL Southill
« Reply #6 on: Friday 22 May 09 21:38 BST (UK) »
Hi David

'No witnesses pre 1754' - I'd forgotten that.

As you say no obvious Mary Woolhead showing. No likely George Neal but then I have no baptism for my George Newell either and he certainly does exist!

No children I can see for George and Mary Neal or Newell 1736-42

Oh well

Jan ;)
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bedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell
buckinghamshire- pain
cambridgeshire- bird, carver
hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey
derbyshire- allsop, noon
devon - griffin, love, rapsey
dorset- rendall, gale
somerset- rendall, churchill
surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge