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John CATES
« on: Thursday 21 May 09 18:34 BST (UK) »
Please could someone look up the census 1860 for John Cates born in Cwmaman,Aberdare , Glamorgan in 1852.
Many thanks
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Re: John CATES
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 21 May 09 19:06 BST (UK) »
Hi Heddwch

1861
RG9/4071 65 32
Aberdare, Glamorgan
Cwmaman

Thomas Kates, head, 47, Banksman, can't read birthplace but other censuses say Clutton Somerset
Urina, wife, 41, b. Cardiganshire
Thomas, son, 20, Coal Miner, same birthplace as father
Mary Anne, dau, 16, (something) servant, b. Aberdare
Lydia, dau, 10, b. do.
John, son, 8, b. do.
George, son, 7, b. do.
William, son, 3, b. do.
John Short?, lodger, unm, 30, Coal Miner, b. Monmouthshire

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Re: John CATES
« Reply #2 on: Friday 22 May 09 16:52 BST (UK) »
Thank you so much for this information, I was really struggling its helped enormously. Am helping a friend its her tree she will be delighted.
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Re: John CATES
« Reply #3 on: Friday 22 May 09 16:55 BST (UK) »
Hi me again,
 Ihave found a Verina Cates born 1812 died aged 79 June 1891.
I wonder if this is Urina the wife??
The family have the name of Verina ( christian name) up to the present day its the name of my friends mother.
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Re: John CATES
« Reply #4 on: Friday 22 May 09 17:51 BST (UK) »
Sounds very likely - it's such an unusual name. The last census I can see her in is 1891

In 1891, her name looks like Averina
1881: Urina
1871: Urinah
1851: Rina

Marriage Thomas Cates - Rina Davies Dec 1850 Merthyr Tydfil
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« Reply #5 on: Friday 22 May 09 23:21 BST (UK) »
Hello Tati,
Would it be possible to see the 1851/1871/1891census   for Verina/ Urina/Rina.
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« Reply #6 on: Saturday 23 May 09 14:10 BST (UK) »
Sure  :)

1891
RG12/4448 19 35
Aberdare, Glamorgan
Forchaman
Bwllfn? Pla**

Thomas Cates, head, 78, Innkeeper, b. Somersetshire - english
Averina, wife, 79, b. Cardiganshire - both
William, son, s, 32, Coal Miner, b. Aberdare - both
David, son, s, 29, Coal Miner, b. do. - both
Gwen Morgan, serv, s, 51, Domestic Servant, b. do. - both
Lydia Morgan, serv, s, 15? Somestic Servant,  b. do. - both

1871
RG10/5410 145 30
Aberdare, Glamorgan
Forchaman
Railway Inn

Thomas Cates, head, 57, Inn Keeper, b. Somerset Clutton
Urinah, wife, 55, b. Cardigan
John, son, 17, Innkeeper's son, b. Glamorgan Aberdare
Will, son, 13, ditto, b. do.
David, son, 8, ditto, b. do.
Ann Rees, niece, unm, 15, General servant, b. do.
Margaret Bowen, serv, 22, General Servant, b. Cardigan

1851
HO107/2460 346 3
Aberdare, Glamorgan
On Fforchaman Farm

Thomas Cates, head, 33, Collier, b. Cum**renton Somersetshire
Rina, wife, 31, b. Spitty Cardiganshire
Mary Ann, dau, 3 (can't read birth place)

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Re: John CATES
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 23 May 09 16:42 BST (UK) »
WOW Tati,
  Thank you for this information , brillant.
   Enjoy your bank holiday
   Kindest Regards
   Heddwch

ps been unwell and this site is certainly helped me to think of other things X


   
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« Reply #8 on: Saturday 23 May 09 17:05 BST (UK) »
I can identify with that - I think I really got hooked to this site back when I had a nasty disease.  

Pleased to help - keep them coming  :) :) 
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