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Offline Richard Swaffield

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1841 & 1851 St George in the East - street names ?
« on: Wednesday 23 February 05 09:45 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

I was hoping some kind soul may be able to shed some light on the streets that were enumerated in the 1841/1851 census'.

In 1861, the Stephens family I am looking for were enumerated at 2, Virginia Street, St George in the East. Sub dist was St Mary's.

In 1871, they were at 137 Pennington Street, St George in the East. Sub dist St Paul.

This seems ok as on my A-Z, the streets are as in the attachement.

However, it looks like Virginia Street was not in the 1851 census. Can anyone tell me if the Street was under another name / not enumerated / 'merged' into Pennington Street for some reason ? Does it appear in the 1841 ?

Any clues would be appreciated.

Richard.
Swaffield (Thorncombe & Broadwindsor)
Hoy (Romford & Matching)
Sargeant (Cambridgeshire)
Otway (Norfolk)
Stephens (Cornwall)

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Re: 1841 & 1851 St George in the East - street names ?
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 23 February 05 10:03 GMT (UK) »
Hello,

I can't give you a definite answer, perhaps someone else will shed some light. 

However, many of my lot come from this part of St George in the E and I still live in the area, in fact 2 minutes walk from Pennington St.  I believe  Virginia Street was at one point (1830s?) just a continuation of Pennington Street - it is not specifically named on earlier maps but I'm unsure when it was actually split.  As your image shows, it was (and still is) like an elbow extension of Pennington Street.  All the streets off of Pennington St (e.g. Breezers Hill) are only a matter of a 100-150 yards long and quite narrow.  Many  of my relatives in the area had dock-related occupations and Pennington St/Virginia St was (still is) I believe a mix of warehouses and housing.

Hope this helps.
Jonathan
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Re: 1841 & 1851 St George in the East - street names ?
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 23 February 05 13:17 GMT (UK) »
Hi
On the 1851 Streets index - it says on 'Pennington Street' to try 'Old Gravel Lane' for missing numbers and vice versa
I looked through both but could not see any STEPHENS

I found these at 27 King Street  / 1547 :

STEPHENS John  Head  52  Bricklayer born Westbury Somerset
STEPHENS Ann   Wife    42                          Chard       Somerset

Wonder if yours?
Rz

1851 - 137 Pennington Street - surnames POLLY  COUSINS and JONES living there

Good luck

Essex  :  Lodge Wheal.
London UK : Bird, Bogg (Lightermen), Brittle, Chamberlane. Perry. Spencer.
Forest of Dean, Gloucestershire  :  Smith.
Hereford : Hope. Prothero(e). 
South Wales UK :  Blaenavon - Hughes Smith.  Brynmawr area - Hobbs. Smith. 
Maerdy Glamorgan - Prothero(e).
Merthyr Tydfil : Hope. Long. Prothero(e).  
   
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Re: 1841 & 1851 St George in the East - street names ?
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 23 February 05 13:45 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

Thank you Jonathan and Reyz for the replies. The John & Ann aren't mine, unfortunately. It looks like I'll have to wait for a couple of Birth certs to come through as they may contain more clues to their whereabouts. I have a sneaking suspicion that they may have been in the Whitechapel area in the early 1840's, but I can't confirm this as yet.

regards

Richard.
Swaffield (Thorncombe & Broadwindsor)
Hoy (Romford & Matching)
Sargeant (Cambridgeshire)
Otway (Norfolk)
Stephens (Cornwall)

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Re: 1841 & 1851 St George in the East - street names ?
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 24 February 05 16:10 GMT (UK) »
Hi Richard, click on the link,then road and street index,and you will find Virginia st runs from Pennington to St Georges.http://www.motco.com/map/81006/
   
This isn`t in 51,but it will show you where the street was.      KenB.
                           
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Re: 1841 & 1851 St George in the East - street names ?
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 30 November 19 12:40 GMT (UK) »
Virginia Street originally ran from the Highway/East Smithfield down to Wapping. Most of it was demolished when the London Docks were constructed around 1800. At that time, the whole of the southern side of Pennington Street also disappeared. All that was left of Virginia Street was the small section from its junction with Pennington Street up to the Highway/East Smithfield.

Along one side of it ran the London Docks wall and the other was taken up by a sugar refinery initially and then a wool warehouse. The reason it does not appear in the census is that there were no residential properties in it at the time.