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Re: German gr grandfather Rudolph Bishcoff/Bishop
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 28 May 09 21:40 BST (UK) »
I have found Rudolf on the Scottish 1901 census. I just need to find out where he went when ww1 broke out. :)

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Re: German gr grandfather Rudolf Bischoff/Bishop
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 29 July 15 22:39 BST (UK) »
I have seen the grave of a Rudolf Bischoff, died 30/9/1914, in the war graves section of Weston Mill cemetery, Plymouth. It stands out because it appears to be a German war grave.


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Re: German gr grandfather Rudolf Bischoff/Bishop
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 30 July 15 08:20 BST (UK) »
Thank you seasidemaid.


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Re: German gr grandfather Rudolf Bischoff/Bishop
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 30 July 15 09:43 BST (UK) »
A bit more about this grave:

http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=174481

"POWs who passed away in the vicinity of Plymouth"

From: http://gallica.bnf.fr/

BEF prisoners 1914.

"Res IR Nr 56 recruited out of Wesel, Westphalia and had following subordination:

13. Res Inf Div
25. Res Inf Bde
Reserve Infantry Regiment Number 56

* this regiment was part of the initial German offensive into Belgium on 2 Aug 1914 and participated in the
taking of Maubeuge."

(captured, I don't know how or when) brought to Plymouth, England as a pow and died in September 1914, (maybe was badly wounded and hospitalised??)

Wemyss/Crombie/Laing/Blyth (West Wemyss)
Givens/Normand (Dysart)
Clark/Lister (Dysart)
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Re: German gr grandfather Rudolf Bischoff/Bishop
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 30 July 15 10:15 BST (UK) »
There is also this one in Red Cross Records, on this page:

http://grandeguerre.icrc.org/en/List/673513/2088/1202/

German Prisoners of War interned outside Europe and Egypt:

Serial number 21246 c , Name Rudolf Bischoff, Age 38, Regiment/House Address or Birthplace Wein (B), Place of internment QU.M. 28.10.14. No Remarks.

QU.M. was in Montreal, Quebec, Cananda and this man was born in Wein (maybe Vienna). Not the same man buried in Plymouth?

You said your Rudolf was born in Berlin.


Wemyss/Crombie/Laing/Blyth (West Wemyss)
Givens/Normand (Dysart)
Clark/Lister (Dysart)
Wilkinson/Simson (Kettle or Kettlehill)

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Re: German gr grandfather Rudolf Bischoff/Bishop
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 30 July 15 11:08 BST (UK) »
Can't seem to find Rudolf Bischoff buried in Plymouth as a British POW but this is the link to the home page of Redcross Records.

http://grandeguerre.icrc.org/
Wemyss/Crombie/Laing/Blyth (West Wemyss)
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Clark/Lister (Dysart)
Wilkinson/Simson (Kettle or Kettlehill)

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Re: German gr grandfather Rudolf Bischoff/Bishop
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 08 August 15 23:18 BST (UK) »
Hi

I think the man you found in the Red Cross Records can not be the right one,
because he was far to young and I' don't think that the right one was a soldier.

But perhaps one of the two Rudolph Bischoff in the Red Cross Records of
Civilian internees is the right one (one age 38 is to young, the other age 49).

Bischoff Rudolph, age 49, 44 Lathan Street, Liverpool, birthplace Berlin
place of internment: Stbs. (This could be Stobs Camp in Hawick, Scotland)

You have to scroll down to the page with the number 7.
http://grandeguerre.icrc.org/en/List/2982638/2091/36/

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Stobs Camp in Hawick, Scotland opened in Nov 1914 to take civilians. When these were sent to the Isle of Man, combatants were detained there. Became the main administrative centre in Scotland when PoW labour was made available

http://www.secretscotland.org.uk/index.php/Secrets/PoWCampSummaryWWI

If he went back to Berlin maybe you can find him in the directories of Berlin.

http://digital.zlb.de/viewer/cms/82/

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