What's Henry's story then

[topmarx]

I am trying to trace Henry Mellors history.
He was born in 1857 in Thoroton Notts

He does not appear on the 1861 census in Thoroton.

I found him on the 1881 census living in Farndon with an Uncle

He married a Farndon woman named Kate Dunn

I could find nothing else for him then a lady researching the same surname sent me this info

She writes

"I found your Henry in the 1871 census, under the name of Mellows as were my Mellors"

"Its a bit confusing but may help"

JOHN HEMSTOCK age 77
Sophia Mellows 43 servant b.Thoroton
Henry Mellows 15 son b. Thoroton
Harriet Mellows 9 daughter b Flintham
Emma Mellows 8 b Flintham
John 7 weeks b. Flintham.

Is this the same person?
Were they this old guys kids?

Can anyone help?

[sjsbc]

Hi,

A search for Henry with Thoroton, gives only one Henry with a surname like Mellor, which is the entry you are quoting.

It is quite common for names to be mis-spelt on census, due to the enumerator using a more phonetic spelling, just writing down what he hears, with differing accents a name is easily misspelt.

Incidently the occupation of John Hemstock was castrator!

As to whether the children are John's, it is hard to say.  On the surface it would seem that way.  However, I have families in my tree with a wife and kids, husband away for census and they have been listed in a similar way implying they are children of the head of house, when they are not.

Perhaps trying to find the other children on the 1881 census may give more clues.

Sue

[topmarx]

 

Thank you for your reply.
Can I ask please. Where is Flintham in relation to Thoroton ?
Also how can I look up the 1881 census and how will it prove things one way or another?
Do you mean in case there is a Mr Mellows who was away?

What an occupation for Mr Henstock to have had. Especially if he turns out to be related.
I am an animal breeder!!!!!

[casalguidi]

Hi Topmarx

It might be a good idea to get Henry MELLORS' marriage certificate if you haven't already.  This might give his father's name and occupation as well as other useful information which should help in solving this problem.

Have you researched the uncle that you mention in the 1881 census?  If he was a true uncle then researching him back should lead you to Henry's mother or father depending upon which side of the family he was an uncle.

Best wishes

Casalguidi

[sjsbc]

Hi,

Ok, not sure what the 1881 gives you, but here is the entry.

Sophia MELARS   Head   W   Female   54   Thoroton, Nottingham, England       
 Harriet MELARS   Daur   U   Female   20   Flintham, Nottingham, England   Lace Maker     
 John MELARS   Son      Male   10   Flintham, Nottingham, England   Scholar     
 Joseph EASON   Lodger   U   Male   44   Flintham, Nottingham, England   Agricultural Labourer     

 Private House
  Census Place Flintham, Nottingham, England
  Family History Library Film   1341808
  Public Records Office Reference   RG11
  Piece / Folio   3380 / 115
  Page Number   15

Flintham and Thoroton are quite close, have a look for them here.

www.streetmap.co.uk


I guess you could try Flintham for the family on the 1861 it looks like they were there when Harriet was born and could have been there for the census.

Sue

[topmarx]

Thank you all for your help on this.
 ;)Well it looks as though Sophia suddenly stops being a servant and becomes the head??

It seems to point to John Hemstock being daddy, as once again there is no Mr Mellors at home. 
Unless he had a job which took him away a lot.
 I will try to find when Henry married Kate Dunn and get the marriage cert as suggested.

Can anyone say which is the best way to research the uncle?
Would trying to find the marriage do?

I only have the details off the 1881 census
 William Allwood aged 86 born Farndon married to Sarah aged 52 born Thoroton. So can I try without the brides surname?

[casalguidi]

Here's a start:

1871

Farndon, Lincolnshire (no address given)

William ALLWOOD (snr) head mar 73 carrier b.Farndon
Sarah wife 44 b.Thoroton
Mary Ann dau 13 b.Farndon
George son 8 b.Farndon

next door:

William ALLWOOD (jnr) head mar 36 maltster b.Farndon
Mary wife 32 b.Navenby Lincolnshire
Harriet dau 10/11 b.Bracebridge Lincolnshire
William son 5 b.Lincoln
Lilly dau 3 b.Lincoln

RG10/3544 folio 110 page 1

It would probably be a good idea to try and track this family back in the earlier census.  Likewise with Sophia.  With William ALLWOOD being so old, it's a bit difficult to decide whether he would be an uncle or great uncle (uncle in law even) to your Henry MELLORs.  I would start with the marriage of Henry MELLORS and the earlier census returns but it's not my family so it's up to you really.

Good luck

Casalguidi

[topmarx]

 
You have been so very helpful. Thanks again.

I shall get busy then and try to follow your advice.

I have been trying to trace a birth for Henry he says he was born Thoroton.  I have found the only one for the right time period in Bingham.  Which is not that far away.  I am going to go for this cert as a starter.

best wishes

[casalguidi]

............... I wouldn't!  Go for his marriage first, then you might get a father's name or some other little clue because you still won't know if the birth certificate is the correct one if you get that first and it may turn out to be wrong.

Best wishes

Casalguidi