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1851 Wisbech Census
« on: Monday 15 June 09 17:53 BST (UK) »
Hi,
I recall being told some time ago (offline) that i was unlikely to find my relatives on the 1851 census in Wisbech as parts of it had been damaged/lost.
I cant find any mention of this on-line, but equally cannot find my relatives.

Does anyone know if there are actually missing parts to the census and if so is there anywhere which states which areas are missing.

Thank you,
Gemma
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Re: 1851 Wisbech Census
« Reply #1 on: Monday 15 June 09 18:53 BST (UK) »
Welcome to Rootschat, where you're given the facts online!

I don't agree with what you've been told - there are 212 Smiths in Wisbech - both parishes - in 1851 in the Cambs FHS index at http://www.cfhs.org.uk/Search.html

Ancestry says the following:
Known problems with the 1851 Census:

    * The following parishes and hamlets are missing from these piece numbers. Some of these parishes and hamlets represent the entirety of the piece, while others are just portions of a piece.
1762   Cambridgeshire and Suffolk   
Ashley-cum-Silverley
Burwell
Exning
Landwade
Newmarket   Reach
Snailwell
St Mary
Swaffham Prior
1763   Cambridgeshire and Suffolk   
Dalham
Dunstall-Green
Gazeley
Higham Green
Kennett   Lidgate
Moulton
Ousden
Southwell Park

No mention of Wisbech

Perhaps they meant Ely in 1861 where the schedules were flooded out.

Who are you looking for?

David
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Re: 1851 Wisbech Census
« Reply #2 on: Monday 15 June 09 19:18 BST (UK) »
David,
Thank you for your reply.

I am looking for the TEED family:
Father : Samuel Teed c. 1797 (date from 1841 census)
And Sons:
Pilot Teed c.1829 Wisbech
Richard Teed c. 1831 Wisbech
William Teed c.1834 Wisbech

Pilot is the son i am particularly interested in, but his name is so frequently mis-spelled i am unsure what the correct spelling is;
Pilot Tate, 1841 census
Petal Podd, 1871 Census
Pilet Teed, 1881 Census
Pilet on his marriage certificate (1854)
Pilate on his daughters birth certificate (1857)

I suspect that Samuel may have remarried to a Sarah Woods, but not being able to find the 1851 i cant be sure that the marriage record i have found is my man.

By the time Pilot married he was living in London so i can't use address from marriage certificate to search.
His future wife (Ann Seaman) was living in Leverington Wisbech in 1851, but confusingly she already had the surname TEED from her first marriage!

Sorry for the essay, but they are not the easiest family to track.

Gemma


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Kent: Ballard, Champion
Lincolnshire: Myatt, Fisher
Scotland: Grosert, Collins, Muirhead
Italy: Bafico

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Re: 1851 Wisbech Census
« Reply #3 on: Monday 15 June 09 21:48 BST (UK) »
Hi,

Well according to the parish register transcript he was baptised as Pilate TEED, on 6 March 1829, Wisbech St. Peter.  Son of Samuel and Mary of Horse Fair, Porter.

Possibly this is the Samuel TEED (bac) and Mary HARROD (wid) that married in 1826 at same Church.  Looks like Mary probably died 1836, still Horse Fair.

If it is your Samuel that married Sarah Woods in 1842 the address was Timber Market, Wisbech which is also the address of a Samuel Teed that was buried in 1847 aged 57.

I don't know how much detail you have but if you want the full entries from the parish register transcript for any of the above events then I will post them for you.

Selina
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Re: 1851 Wisbech Census
« Reply #4 on: Monday 15 June 09 22:14 BST (UK) »
Selina,
Thank You!
No, i don't have any of those records, in the detail you give. I found the marriage for Samuel TEED and Mary HARROD, but it didn't state that she was a widow so i would have been going down the incorrect path looking for her baptism.

I would be very grateful for any of the full entries from the parish register you can post.
I have information about Pilot/Pilate's descendants, but his early life seems to have eluded me until now.

Gemma
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Surrey: Furlonger
Kent: Ballard, Champion
Lincolnshire: Myatt, Fisher
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Italy: Bafico

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Re: 1851 Wisbech Census
« Reply #5 on: Monday 15 June 09 23:07 BST (UK) »
Hi Gemma,

Sent you a pm.

Selina
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Re: 1851 Wisbech Census
« Reply #6 on: Monday 15 June 09 23:26 BST (UK) »
Hi again,

I presume you have Ann Teed in the 1861 census?  Sailors wife, Sunderland, must be her as there is a son Samuel Pilot Teed.

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Re: 1851 Wisbech Census
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 16 June 09 00:02 BST (UK) »
Selina,
Thank you for the PM. That has certainly added some more dates to me tree and given me some new avenues of searching.
I may take you up on you offer to look up a couple more names when i have had a chance to look through my notes tomorrow.

Yes, i have the 1861 for his wife Mary Teed, as well as the later census records relating to the family.

I had seen that linked page before, but perhaps an earlier version as it didn't mention Pilate Teed in that much detail (just a name.)
I did find a couple of discrepancies in it when i looked before (for example Alfred George Teed, 1840 did not die young, he just used his middle name!) and perhaps that is why i didn't think to go back to it.
It is certainly worth another look now!

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London: Heeks, Hall, Kemp, Attwood
Surrey: Furlonger
Kent: Ballard, Champion
Lincolnshire: Myatt, Fisher
Scotland: Grosert, Collins, Muirhead
Italy: Bafico