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Help needed please
« on: Wednesday 17 June 09 16:26 BST (UK) »
Hi there

I need help from a pair of fresh eyes to see if I am going totally GA GA

I am tracking a Jonas Hodgson born 1819 Leeds basket maker info from wedding certificate of my gg grandfather
there is an ancestral file on the IGI

His parents
John Hodgson born 1795 Yorkshire married a Johannah either Peacock or Hirst  born 1798

I ordered the death certificate for a Johannah Hodgson on it her spouse John a school master (my John was a mere Basket Maker) and the reporter was a Mary Peacock so I am thinking it must be Hirst he married (her father called Jonas too)

1841 census mothers name Hannah and 8 children Jonas basket maker and son John basket maker
1851 John wife is now Ann and another child born 1844 her DOB is abt 1801  son John Basket maker
so that would make her in her 50,s when she had the child  if it is the same woman Hannah or Johannah

I know they got the names wrong sometimes  and dates   this is driving me nuts!! could he of remarried  ???
or am I putting 2 and 2 together and getting 5?? or am I tracking wrong woman

second opion appreciated
thanks in advance





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Re: Help needed please
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 17 June 09 17:22 BST (UK) »
So this marriage cert that you hold...

Is it for this chap b 1819? When & where did it take place, (to whom, what names witmnessed etc..

These census(es)
give the whole shebang,
Location (Refs)
Name age, birthplace, occupation for ALL people

Does this 1844 child live to 1861? What's the relationship detail given then?

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« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 17 June 09 18:17 BST (UK) »
yes the marraige cert is for Jonas  born 1819 to a Ann matthews in the parish church of leeds

fathers are John hodgson basket maker and benjamin Matthews cloth dyer

witnesses her brother Frederick matthews and a Susannah Wright

Censuses 1841 only have John Jonas and son John down as basket makers and 3 of the sisters down at 15 years old
1851 only john down as basket maker and son basket maker  Jonas married 1842

1961 census none for the family found as a group a susannah Hodgson 21 years lodging with her brother Richard age 11
she was a dress maker he at school.
Same address for each census but 13 year age gap between husband and wife which means she had the first child at 15 years old going by the 1801 age

thanks




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« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 17 June 09 20:37 BST (UK) »
Please bear in mind we have not seen the census and do not know which page you are looking at.
We need to see the evidence (Transcript of the census) to know if we would agree with /differ from your conclusions/deductions.


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Re: Help needed please
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 25 July 09 17:32 BST (UK) »
Hi I am the great great grandson of Jonas Hodgson and can answer most of your questions.There is no birth certificate for Jonas just a Parish record entry but he was born in 1820.This is verified from his death certificate (which I have) he died 28th June 1864 aged 44 when his forearm was amputated!His father John had 8 children;Jonas Susannah (I have her birth certificate) John Sarah Eliza George Martha and Mary, this information is taken from the 1841 census returns (which I have on disc).They all lived at 12 Marsh Lane Leeds,a Basket Makers shop.I am on my way back to the 17c but can help with any other questions about Jonas.

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« Reply #5 on: Saturday 25 July 09 18:50 BST (UK) »
Hi there

I have sent you a personal message with my contact details

thank you  for the information
Polly
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« Reply #6 on: Thursday 17 March 16 23:40 GMT (UK) »
I am Richard Hodgsons great grand daughter, Jonas was Richards oldest brother. All of the info I have already matches the below more or less exactly.

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« Reply #7 on: Sunday 16 August 20 17:53 BST (UK) »
Hi, did you get anywhere with Jonas and his family? Jonas is my 3rd great uncle. Do you know anything of his father? I have Hannah/Ann/Johanna Schofield of Birstall  as his mother but have been unable to find a marriage certificate for his mother and father.
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Sue