John PALMER b:1819 Bratton, Wiltshire, England

[alanhughes]

Looking for any help on John Palmer b:1819 Bratton, Wiltshire, England he married an Ellen Hannam b: England 1821 Had at least 1 child William Henry Palmer b: St Heliers, Jersey, Channel Islands 16 Mar 1845

All posts much appreciated, Thanks

[Tati]

Hi Alan,

I'm not sure whether this 1861 census is any use, showing more children:

1861
RG9/4394 41 5
St Helier, Jersey
10 Hill St
John Palmer, head, 42, Sailor, b. England
Ellen, wife, 40, b. do.
William H, son, 16, Servantman, b. Jersey St Heliers
Louisa, dau, 11, scholar, b. do.
Ellen, dau, 9, scholar, b. do.
Alice, dau, 4, scholar, b. do. - blind
John R, son, 1, b. do.
+ 4 boarders   

(The 1871 census also shows a son Henry then aged 9, and motes that little Alice was blind from smallpox  )

[Tati]

There was also an older Elizabeth it seems:

1851
HO107/2527 469 25
St Helier, Jersey
10 Museum Street
Ellen Palmer, head, mar, 30, Inn Keeper, b. England
Elizabeth, dau, 8, scholar, b. St Helier
William H, son, 6, scholar, b. do.
Louisa, dau, 10 mo, b. do.

 

[alanhughes]

Thank you Tati excellent info

[Captain2]

Hi, just read your post.  I don't know if it would be useful to you ( you may have all the info you need) but I live in Bratton, Wiltshire.  The parish registers are no longer held in St James's Church, they were moved to the new Chippenham offices.  If John Palmer came from Bratton his family may be in church yard and I would be happy to look for you.  We also have a Baptist Chapel in the village. Any info you need about the village, if I can help, I would be happy to.

[alanhughes]

Hi Captain2
That is a very kind offer, and of course I accept, any new info you could find out for me would be much appeciated
Regards Alan

[Captain2]

Hi Alan,  give me a couple of days and I'll have a scout around the church yard(s).  Do you have any idea of addresses? The oldest part of Bratton is known as Luccombe, Stradbrooke and Lower Road.  Bratton 200 years ago was quite an industries village.  There was an iron works ( founded 1806 ) and Mill  with bakery and shops, although it's rural it is only a few miles from Westbury which had the railway. There was also a huge ( and still is) farming community.  I'll get back to you when I have the info.  Bye for now.  Angie

[alanhughes]

All I can tell you about John Palmer is, he married an Ellen Hannam born England 1821, They were married in Jersey 1842 and lived there for the rest of their lives. John died between 1891 and 1901

[Captain2]

Hello Alan, well I have spent a very pleasant afternoon wandering around St James's Church and the Baptist Chapel; I'm afraid it wasn't very fruitfull, no Palmer gravestones at all ! I have spoken with the church wardens for both the church and the chapel.  It's not a local name they recognise ( whilst they cut the grass)  The older records for St James's are now in Chippenham, however all the records for the Baptist Chapel are still in place and they have agreed to let me ( next week) trawl through the boxes - exciting!  On a more positive.. I found an 1841 census for John Palmer it reads:
Palmer, John   M 25 b. 1816 England
Palmer, Samuel M 60 b. 1781 England
Palmer, Christiana F 20 b. 1821 England
Palmer, Jane F 19 b. 1822 England.
The address is Union Road, Great, St Helier, Jersey.  Which seemed to fit in with your John Palmer getting married the following year.

I also found a marriage for Samuel Palmer to Ann Godwin 2 June 1816 In Cricklade.  Samuel's occupation is listed as 'yeo'.  Witnesses Thomas Godwin, yeo Cricklade.  It is the only marriage I can find listed for Wiltshire at this time?

I hope this fits in with your search.  I will let you know if any Palmer's come up in the Baptist Chapel records.

Good luck.. Angie