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Thomas Todd, missing brother of Great Grandma.....COMPLETED
« on: Thursday 18 June 09 15:42 BST (UK) »
Can anyone help me find my great grandma's brother?

He is Thomas Todd b c1865 Marylebone, Middx. He is with the family in the 1881 census, details are:

6 Grove Rd, Edmonton, Middx

Parents: Thomas Todd and wife Isabella

Children: Thomas jnr aged 16, Drapers Apprentice
                Isabella 14 (she went on to marry and I have her details all traced)
                Annie 10 (my great grandma)


In 1891 the family are still at the same address, Thomas snr is widowed, daughter Isabella is still there, and a couple of young relations, but no Thomas jnr.

I was told that my great grandma Annie Todd was an only child. Her sister Isabella died young, after marrying and having two children, and Thomas has dissapeared after the 1881 census....did he die, move abroad......is this why the family think Annie was an only child.

Can anyone help me trace Thomas after 1881?

(Can I also link this to a completed request, Thomas Todd, Marylebone, Middx under London and Middx)

Beverley
Leics-Sharp/Baker/Underwood
Marylebone-Osborne/Tod(d)
Herts- Sear, Cato
Bucks/ Beds-Impey/Field/Hall
Herefordshire-Smallman
Glos-Poole/Byard/Smallman
Middx-Kemp/Harris/Perrin/Lee/Cooper/Morrell
Middx-Ballard
Berks-Ballard
Wilts-Ballard
Hammersmith, Middx-Cranstone
Surrey/Middx-Jux
Villemagne, France- Perrin
Dunning, Perthshire-Tod/Niven
Dorset- Tod/d
Milner- Neenton, Shropshire
Edwards- Neenton, Shropshire
Poultney/Beswick-Kidderminster, Worcs

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Re: Thomas Todd, missing brother of Great Grandma.....
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 18 June 09 18:23 BST (UK) »
Here's the other post:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,240136.0.html

Do you know where and when his parents' died (one between 1881 and 1891, one after 1891?)
Have you checked Scottish records for him?

There is a Thomas Niven Todd found in NZ:

m. Eva Alice Hay Chapman in 1893
four children
d. 1908, aged 43

I thought of this one as both Alice and Isabella have the middle name "Niven":
This site says he was born "Scotland" but the thought occurs to me that that could be from family info (and go back one generation and they are Scottish, so):
http://myfamilytree.whnz.net/plugins/tngIL/getperson.php?personID=I256&tree=Karen
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Re: Thomas Todd, missing brother of Great Grandma.....
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 18 June 09 19:25 BST (UK) »
Hi Jorose,

Thanks for your reply. Thomas Todd snr (his family surname was spelt Tod, but Thomas seems to have added an extra "D" to his surname at some point!) died in Silloth, Cumbria 21.9.1913. His son from his first marriage lived there, so assume he was on a visit. (In 1901/1911 census he was living with his daughter Annie and her family).
Thomas's second wife Margaret (mother to Thomas jnr, Isabella and Annie) died 23.10.1888 at 6 Grove Rd.

Interestingly, their daughter was Isabella Niven Todd (her paternal grandmother was Isabel Niven) and after Isabella's early death my great grandma Annie went by the name Annie Niven Todd, later Annie Niven Sharp on marriage.

 There is a big connection to New Zealand with the family. Thomas snr had a brother John Ford Tod who settled in Dorset. Two of his son's emigrated to New Zealand, to Wanganui, Thomas snr also had another brother whose son went to New Zealand, so it is possible Thomas jnr went to New Zealand too, perhaps this explains his absence after 1881, and the families belief that Annie was an only child. Just need to prove it now!

Thanks again for your help, much appreciated. :)
Beverley
Leics-Sharp/Baker/Underwood
Marylebone-Osborne/Tod(d)
Herts- Sear, Cato
Bucks/ Beds-Impey/Field/Hall
Herefordshire-Smallman
Glos-Poole/Byard/Smallman
Middx-Kemp/Harris/Perrin/Lee/Cooper/Morrell
Middx-Ballard
Berks-Ballard
Wilts-Ballard
Hammersmith, Middx-Cranstone
Surrey/Middx-Jux
Villemagne, France- Perrin
Dunning, Perthshire-Tod/Niven
Dorset- Tod/d
Milner- Neenton, Shropshire
Edwards- Neenton, Shropshire
Poultney/Beswick-Kidderminster, Worcs

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Re: Thomas Todd, missing brother of Great Grandma.....COMPLETED
« Reply #3 on: Friday 21 March 14 05:10 GMT (UK) »
Hi.
I live in New Zealand. My great grandfather was Thomas Niven Todd. I never knew him, but I did know his son Kenneth Niven Todd (my grandfather) very well. He was a professional soldier involved in logistics, a veteran of WW1 and WWW2, and retired as a Lt. Col. I am interested in tracing the family back...so many people who came out to NZ simply left all connections behind it seems.


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Re: Thomas Todd, missing brother of Great Grandma.....COMPLETED
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 23 March 14 09:22 GMT (UK) »
Hi ToddR

Welcome to Rootschat  ;D

According to her profile, Beverley hasn't been online here since July last year but as long as she hasn't changed her email address should receive notifications that we have posted here and hopefully come back soon.

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