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Offline BigSlick

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One Penny Sheet - Completed by clever peeps
« on: Thursday 18 June 09 18:54 BST (UK) »
Anyone know what the significance of a stamp on a will  with the words "One Penny Sheet" is ?
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Re: One Penny Sheet
« Reply #1 on: Friday 19 June 09 04:59 BST (UK) »
Don't know if this is correct, but stamps were (are) printed on sheets of paper. There may be 24 stamps to a sheet (just a guess). Maybe the ancestor was left a sheet of Penny stamps? Depending how old the stamps are, would depend on the value. If the stamps are old, and the Will recent, it could be worth some money.

English Penny stamps were the first produced in the 1840's with Penny "Blacks" (colour of stamp) being very collectable these days, especially if still uncut in a full sheet.

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Re: One Penny Sheet
« Reply #2 on: Friday 19 June 09 05:34 BST (UK) »
BigSlick, when was the will drawn up and/or probated please?

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Re: One Penny Sheet
« Reply #3 on: Friday 19 June 09 08:30 BST (UK) »
Did you mean there is a postage stamp stuck on, with the words written over it?

or are the words stamped on, as with a rubber stamp?

Maybe you could scan the will and post a picture . . .

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Re: One Penny Sheet
« Reply #4 on: Friday 19 June 09 08:56 BST (UK) »
Did you mean there is a postage stamp stuck on, with the words written over it?

or are the words stamped on, as with a rubber stamp?

Maybe you could scan the will and post a picture . . .

Mike.

I think perhaps Mike you are thinking of Stamp Duty?  Legal transactions such as selling property (without an intermediary) could be done by signing over a stamp of a certain value.  Not sure whether stamp duty applied to wills though.   Sometimes the stamp could be embossed on the document I believe.
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Lincs: Kendall, Clark, Morley,Vincent, Withers, Barlow,Dawson.
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Re: One Penny Sheet
« Reply #5 on: Friday 19 June 09 09:01 BST (UK) »

Does the stamp look like the example below? It is on a Bond the administrators had to sign for a person who died intestate in 1840, and shows the Stamp Duty has been paid.

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Re: One Penny Sheet
« Reply #6 on: Friday 19 June 09 09:29 BST (UK) »
Sorry for the delay, I have attached a snippet showing the graphic from the 1741 Will. I have read through a bit since my last post and I don't think it was worth anything, so why do a will?
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Re: One Penny Sheet
« Reply #7 on: Friday 19 June 09 15:30 BST (UK) »
Looks to me like the administration of someone who died intestate (without making a will) enabling the widow or whoever to carry out probate.
Warwicks: Whitehead, Allcock, Atkins, Bayley, Beacham, Bilson, Brooks, Cleaver,Farmer,Gilks, Lucas, Kendall, Oliver, Pickard, Shilton, Underhill.
Lincs: Kendall, Clark, Morley,Vincent, Withers, Barlow,Dawson.
Leics. Vincent
Notts: Bardill, Bugg, Morley, Winfield
Dublin: Brooks, Flood.

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Re: One Penny Sheet
« Reply #8 on: Friday 19 June 09 16:07 BST (UK) »

Hi Bigslick

The image you have posted looks very much like the Bond (obligation) that I have. In my case my gggg-grandfather was appointed as the administrator for his brother who had died without leaving a will. He had to swear an affidavit that his brother had died and that he would make a 'true and perfect inventory' of his brother's goods and chattels to be presented to the court so that probate could be granted. He would have to pay £400 pounds if he didn't provide a fair and honest inventory ... and the procedure included having to pay thee-halfpence stamp duty/tax on the sheet of paper it was all written on!

In your case, one hundred years earlier, the Anne and John Chester were bound for £27, and the stamp duty was one penny.

Does that make sense? Had a relative of Anne and John died without making a will?

Koromo
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(Snap, Graham! I took too long writing my reply — got distracted.  ;))
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Lewis: Llanfair Kilgeddin | Abergavenny | NZ
Stallworthy: Bucks. | Samoa | NZ
Brothers: Nottingham | NZ
Darling: Dunbar | Tahiti
Keat: St Minver | NZ
Bowles: Deal | NZ
Coaney: Bucks.
Jones: Brecon