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SHELLARD brothers to USA and RSA
« on: Sunday 28 June 09 01:10 BST (UK) »
Hello Members

Can I please ask for your assistance?

The sons of George Shadrack SHELLARD -
viz.
George SHELLARD
b c1878  Bristol
went to South Africa

His younger brothers
Robert SHELLARD b c1882
and
Albert  SHELLARD b c1884
both went to America [possibly NY Rochester].

In the 1881 Census Bristol -
Household:

George Shadrach SHELLARD   Head   M   Male   32   Bitton, Gloucester, England   Wheelwright     
Elizath. SHELLARD   Wife   M   Female   28   Bristol       
George SHELLARD   Son      Male   3   Bristol       
Elizath. SHELLARD   Daur      Female   1   Bristol       
~~~~~~~~
Source Information:
  Dwelling   11 Park Row
  Census Place Bristol St Philip & Jacob Out, Gloucester, England
  Family History Library Film   1341602
  Public Records Office Reference   RG11
  Piece / Folio   2497 / 34
  Page Number   19
.........................................................

Is it possible to find out -
if the brothers were still in england at the 1901 Census.

when and on what ships they travelled to their new country.

With thanks

Crabby
in Brisbane

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Re: SHELLARD brothers to USA and RSA
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 28 June 09 01:19 BST (UK) »
There is a Household with Robert born-abt 1881 England with wife Nora F. C. born-abt 1883 England
and brother Albert born-abt 1889 England

Robert and Nora show as married for 4 years, arrival date is 1907 so a good chance they married in England

1910 Census Rochester Ward 13, Monroe, New York
Page 1A ED 134
Jeffs - Northamptonshire to Leicestershire to Queensland, Australia
Lewis - Wales to Gloucestershire to NSW & Queensland, Australia
Iddols & Baylis - Gloucestershire
Mary Jones, daughter of James Jones and Eliza - born abt 1864 Staffordshire, died 1948 Queensland, Australia
Dorans - Ireland to Scotland to Queensland, Australia
Ralph - Ireland to Scotland to Queensland, Australia
Jillett - Robert, Transported Convict from Surrey
Christison - Edinburgh,Scotland
Cameron - Edinburgh, Scotland

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Re: SHELLARD brothers to USA and RSA
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 28 June 09 01:28 BST (UK) »
1901 Census Bristol, Gloucestershire
Piece: 2381; Folio: 80; Page: 19

All 3 brothers are there with other siblings and parents, let me know if you require a transcription

Mick
Jeffs - Northamptonshire to Leicestershire to Queensland, Australia
Lewis - Wales to Gloucestershire to NSW & Queensland, Australia
Iddols & Baylis - Gloucestershire
Mary Jones, daughter of James Jones and Eliza - born abt 1864 Staffordshire, died 1948 Queensland, Australia
Dorans - Ireland to Scotland to Queensland, Australia
Ralph - Ireland to Scotland to Queensland, Australia
Jillett - Robert, Transported Convict from Surrey
Christison - Edinburgh,Scotland
Cameron - Edinburgh, Scotland

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Re: SHELLARD brothers to USA and RSA
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 28 June 09 01:51 BST (UK) »
Albert Shellard arrived New York 8 Apr 1909 on the ship Caronia
Parents living at Moorland Rd Bristrol
Brother Robert 773 Sth Clinton Av Rochester (they were at 775 Sth Clinton 1910 Census)
Jeffs - Northamptonshire to Leicestershire to Queensland, Australia
Lewis - Wales to Gloucestershire to NSW & Queensland, Australia
Iddols & Baylis - Gloucestershire
Mary Jones, daughter of James Jones and Eliza - born abt 1864 Staffordshire, died 1948 Queensland, Australia
Dorans - Ireland to Scotland to Queensland, Australia
Ralph - Ireland to Scotland to Queensland, Australia
Jillett - Robert, Transported Convict from Surrey
Christison - Edinburgh,Scotland
Cameron - Edinburgh, Scotland


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Re: SHELLARD brothers to USA and RSA
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 28 June 09 02:18 BST (UK) »
no luck on 1st trips for George to Africia or Robert to US.

George did return to UK in 1910 from S Africa with wife Josephine nee (Velleman?).
Also listed 1922 from UK travelling to US on return to S Africia
Victor VELLEMAN in Potcheptroon South Africia is listed as brother-inlaw

Robert appears to have made several trips back to the UK

I've looked on both Ancestery and Ellis Island
Jeffs - Northamptonshire to Leicestershire to Queensland, Australia
Lewis - Wales to Gloucestershire to NSW & Queensland, Australia
Iddols & Baylis - Gloucestershire
Mary Jones, daughter of James Jones and Eliza - born abt 1864 Staffordshire, died 1948 Queensland, Australia
Dorans - Ireland to Scotland to Queensland, Australia
Ralph - Ireland to Scotland to Queensland, Australia
Jillett - Robert, Transported Convict from Surrey
Christison - Edinburgh,Scotland
Cameron - Edinburgh, Scotland

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Re: SHELLARD brothers to USA and RSA
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 28 June 09 05:33 BST (UK) »
G'day Biker Mick

Thank you so very much for the information you've assembled on my behalf.

Great work.

My sister married a SHELLARD in Potch. Potcheptroon] and they are now living in Launceston.

Through my searching, they have made contact with a branch of the Rochester family.  Coincidently they are travelling to eastern Canada in September and will deviate to meet up with the newly-discovered branch.

Your research has put some icing [and filling] on the cake

Sincerely

Crabby

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Re: SHELLARD brothers to USA and RSA
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 28 June 09 05:50 BST (UK) »
1901 Census Bristol, Gloucestershire
Piece: 2381; Folio: 80; Page: 19

All 3 brothers are there with other siblings and parents, let me know if you require a transcription

Yes please, it may assist in filling a few gaps

Thanks

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Re: SHELLARD brothers to USA and RSA
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 28 June 09 06:40 BST (UK) »
1901 Census 109 Easton Rd, Bristol, Gloucestershire
Piece 2381 Folio 80 Page 19

George S SHELLARD Head Married 52 Bitton, Gloucestershire Wheelwright
Elizabeth do Wife Married 48 Bristol, Gloucestershire
George do 23 Wheelwright
Robert do 19 Wheelwright
Harry do 17 Steam Engine Fitter
Albert do 12
William do 9

All children are single and born Bristol, Gloucestershire
Jeffs - Northamptonshire to Leicestershire to Queensland, Australia
Lewis - Wales to Gloucestershire to NSW & Queensland, Australia
Iddols & Baylis - Gloucestershire
Mary Jones, daughter of James Jones and Eliza - born abt 1864 Staffordshire, died 1948 Queensland, Australia
Dorans - Ireland to Scotland to Queensland, Australia
Ralph - Ireland to Scotland to Queensland, Australia
Jillett - Robert, Transported Convict from Surrey
Christison - Edinburgh,Scotland
Cameron - Edinburgh, Scotland

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Re: SHELLARD brothers to USA and RSA
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 30 June 09 03:23 BST (UK) »


G'day Biker Mick

Thank you once again for the time and effort you have spent on my behalf.

Much appreciated

Crabby