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Re: Edward LACEY and family NSW - lookup ?
« Reply #9 on: Friday 03 July 09 03:43 BST (UK) »
AB is an ablebodied seaman as Sue says ,  but it is also a Rank, the lowest rank  possible  an able bodied seaman.

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Re: Edward LACEY and family NSW - lookup ?
« Reply #10 on: Friday 03 July 09 03:45 BST (UK) »
Hi Lin Tree,

Nice find Sue !!  ;D

Charles Lynch LACEY Passed at the age of 50 at Marrickville in his home with his eldest son

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Re: Edward LACEY and family NSW - lookup ?
« Reply #11 on: Friday 03 July 09 03:46 BST (UK) »
AB is an ablebodied seaman as Sue says ,  but it is also a Rank, the lowest rank  possible  an able bodied seaman.

Jenn

Hi Jenn,

Isn't a Master Mariner a captain ??

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Scott

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Re: Edward LACEY and family NSW - lookup ?
« Reply #12 on: Friday 03 July 09 03:49 BST (UK) »
No  I  don't  think  so  not really
have to check that out  further

Jenn
When you search for ancestors, you find great friends!
I live in Townsville researching
TOWNSEND,PINNEGAR, STRANGE, PULLEN, GRIFFIN from Wiltshire,,
SHOEBRIDGE, VINALL, BRINDLE, Kent
BAYLEY, Dorset,Yorkshire,
HAIR, Durham,
CUMMINS, BROWNLESS from Yorkshire,
EDSALL,  Cornwall,
MORGAN, HENNESSY, BAKER,  Ireland.
VAN REYK Sri Lanka
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Re: Edward LACEY and family NSW - lookup ?
« Reply #13 on: Friday 03 July 09 03:51 BST (UK) »
12777/1926  LACEY,  CHARLES L  (-LACEY) aged  64 YRS @ MARRICKVILLE  

The first part of his name, before the hyphen , seems to have not been known to the informant, Or is illegible, so not transcribed?

What do others make of that?

ALSO, I get 1862 as a irth date for this man by the age and date of death
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Re: Edward LACEY and family NSW - lookup ?
« Reply #14 on: Friday 03 July 09 03:52 BST (UK) »
Hi Jenn,

Thanks for the reply but I found this but can't really use it as a reliable source

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_mariner

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Re: Edward LACEY and family NSW - lookup ?
« Reply #15 on: Friday 03 July 09 03:53 BST (UK) »
Charles Lynch LACEY Passed at the age of 50 at Marrickville

... I can't find the death cert entry the NSW BDM index either -- how did you find it?
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Re: Edward LACEY and family NSW - lookup ?
« Reply #16 on: Friday 03 July 09 03:54 BST (UK) »
okay had a look at wikki

I was going on my dad bein ana ablebodied seaman when  he first joined the Australian Navy.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Able_Seaman_(occupation)

also taking a direct quote

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Master Mariner
Traditionally, a person holding an unrestricted master's license is called a Master Mariner and may use the postnominal title MM. The term unrestricted indicates that there is no restriction of size, power or geographic location on the license. It is the highest level of professional qualification amongst mariners. In England the term Master Mariner has been in use at least since the 13th century—reflecting the fact that in guild terms, such a person was a master craftsman in this specific profession. In the United States, it was introduced in the mid-19th century. Currently, a U.S. Master Mariner License is reserved for issue to those few who have attained the level of Unlimited Master, as well as Unlimited Chief Engineer, unlike the UK.

An unrestricted master's license is colloquially called a "Master's Ticket", "Master's Unlimited" or just a "Master's." In the UK the official name of a Master Mariner’s qualification has varied over the years. The conventions or acts governing the license have evolved alongside the shipping industry. The master's license is sometimes still referred to as a Class 1 or Master Foreign-Going certificate as it was named during the latter part of the 20th century. The UK Maritime & Coastguard Agency, inline with the amended STCW convention, currently title the license as Master Unlimited.

hope this helps

Jenn
When you search for ancestors, you find great friends!
I live in Townsville researching
TOWNSEND,PINNEGAR, STRANGE, PULLEN, GRIFFIN from Wiltshire,,
SHOEBRIDGE, VINALL, BRINDLE, Kent
BAYLEY, Dorset,Yorkshire,
HAIR, Durham,
CUMMINS, BROWNLESS from Yorkshire,
EDSALL,  Cornwall,
MORGAN, HENNESSY, BAKER,  Ireland.
VAN REYK Sri Lanka
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Re: Edward LACEY and family NSW - lookup ?
« Reply #17 on: Friday 03 July 09 03:55 BST (UK) »
12777/1926  LACEY,  CHARLES L  (-LACEY) aged  64 YRS @ MARRICKVILLE  

The first part of his name, before the hyphen , seems to have not been known to the informant, Or is illegible, so not transcribed?

What do others make of that?
Sue  

Hi Sue,

I have the death certificate and I also found that on the website For BDM but on the certificate stated he was 54 when he passed away and on the certificate the fathers name is a hyphen or - and the surname LACEY is only mentioned

Hope this helps :)

cheers

Scott