1841 / 1851 Sudbury - JOHNSON

[girlstitcher]

Hi

I think my husbands  great x 1 grandfather Henry Johnson was born in Sudbury abt 1849

His father was William and could have  married either Susannah Tuffin or Susan Sidey about 1844

Any information would be wonderful as I have hit a wall !!!!

Many thanks

[Rick]

Hi

I'm doing a spot of housekeeping.  Do you still need this information please?

Rick

[girlstitcher]

Hi Rick

Many thanks for keeping track, and yes any information would be gratefully received.

Regards

Yvonne

[Bryant]

girlstitcher

1841 census
SUDBURY UNION WORKHOUSE, SUFFOLK
SUSAN TUFFEN  18   N (not born in county)
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only two Susan Sidey (variants) in Suffolk/Norfolk/Essex and they are in Essex in 1841.

SUSAN SIDAY  28  GREAT HENNY, ESSEX
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SUSAN SIDAY  15  LAMARSH, ESSEX
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their are 13 William Johnson's aged between 15-25 in the 1841 census for Suffolk...........remember that if the age is not known in the 1841 it is rounded down  ie  15-20 = 15, 25-30 = 25 etc etc

Regards
Bryant

[Rick]

Hi

I think my husbands  great x 1 grandfather Henry Johnson was born in Sudbury abt 1849

His father was William and could have  married either Susannah Tuffin or Susan Sidey about 1844

Any information would be wonderful as I have hit a wall !!!!

Many thanks

I cannot find a Henry born circa 1849 in Sudbury itself on the 51 index, but there is one born at Lawshall which is in Sudbury Registration District.  However, his parents are Thomas and Ann.

He doesn't seem likely, but if you would like the details, let me know.

Rick

[girlstitcher]

Rick and Bryant

I think I may have found my Henry Johnson, it looks as though he may have been born in Halesworth.

I have found a family of Johnsons with the parents of William and Maria living in Chediston Street ( these being  Henry's grandparents ) on the 1861 census although he is recorded as Harry !!!! and it looks as though his mother was Elizabeth, with a maiden name of Denny .

So thanks to you both for helping me

Regards

girlsticher

[Bryant]

Hello girlstitcher

Henry's are often called Harry's and have been for hundreds of years, so not a surprise there!

1841 Census
Chediston Street, Halesworth, Suffolk.......HO107/1015/16

William Johnson  40       Y
Maria       "            4             Y
Hezecah  "           14            Y
Hepseba  "           12           Y
Samuel    "            15 shoemaker ap  Y
William    "             9             Y
Sidny       "             8             Y
Eliza        "             7              Y
Harriot     "             5              Y
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also in Chediston Street
William Johnson  20  painter J (journeyman)  Y
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*Maria is definitely transcribed as aged 4 and on looking at the original it is as clear as day...........so why is she placed immediately below William aged 40!............and not in her pecking order at the bottom of the pile........one has to assume the 0 has completely disappeared over time or the enumerator forgot to put the 0 to the 40?

Hopefully this will lead to the 1851 for this family and William aged 20 and you get closer to your goal

Have fun
Bryant

[Rick]

This looks like Henry in 51.

HO107/1803 Folio 561b
Chediston St
Halesworth
DENNY Sophia, Head, Widow, 67, Mangler, b Halesworth
JOHNSON William, Son in law, 30, Painter Journeyman, b Harlestone, Norfolk
JOHNSON Elizabeth, Dau, 36, b Halesworth
JOHNSON Caroline, Grandau, 8, Dame School, b Halesworth
JOHNSON William, Grandson, 6, Dame School, b Halesworth
JOHNSON Charles, Grandson, 4, Dame Scool, b ditto
JOHNSON Henry Denny, 1, b ditto

Living next door

JOHNSON
William, Head, Married, 53, Chimney Sweep, b Grantham, Leicestershire
Maria, Wife, 52, b Huntingfield Suffolk
Sidney, Son, 19, Cabinet Maker, b Halesworth
Harriot, Dau, 15, Scholar, b ditto
Philip, Son, 8, Scholar, b ditto

Rick

[Bryant]

girlstitcher

A lesson to be learnt..............if you think people in the rest of the household are not relevant.....never ever discount them 
William the journeyman painter from the 1841 on my earlier reply.......well he is staying with
SOPHIA DENNY  50  WIDOW  Y
ELIZABETH  "     20                 Y

Hello girlstitcher

Henry's are often called Harry's and have been for hundreds of years, so not a surprise there!

1841 Census
Chediston Street, Halesworth, Suffolk.......HO107/1015/16

William Johnson 40 Y
Maria " 4 Y
Hezecah " 14 Y
Hepseba " 12 Y
Samuel " 15 shoemaker ap Y
William " 9 Y
Sidny " 8 Y
Eliza " 7 Y
Harriot " 5 Y
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also in Chediston Street
William Johnson 20 painter J (journeyman) Y
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*Maria is definitely transcribed as aged 4 and on looking at the original it is as clear as day...........so why is she placed immediately below William aged 40!............and not in her pecking order at the bottom of the pile........one has to assume the 0 has completely disappeared over time or the enumerator forgot to put the 0 to the 40?

Hopefully this will lead to the 1851 for this family and William aged 20 and you get closer to your goal

What a mug
Have fun
Bryant