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Bevan Orcop/Garway Herefordshire
« on: Wednesday 08 July 09 22:13 BST (UK) »
Help!  ???

I am trying to find a link between William BEVAN b.15 October 1879, Hereford and Isabella BEVAN b. 1859 Orcop/Garway Hill Herefordshire, daughter of John BEVAN/BEAVAN and Elizabeth (Eliza) GOUGH.
I have not been able to find William's birth records. I do know that Isabella married William NORMAN in 1884 in Birmingham. William did not find out that Isabella was his mother until he was older. He thought he was living with his aunt. The 1891 census shows William with Isabella and William NORMAN living in Tipton although he is shown as a 'visitor.' I have not been able to find either Isabella BEVAN or William BEVAN in the 1881 census. 
Any help or advice would be most welcome.

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Susan

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Re: Bevan Orcop/Garway Herefordshire
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 09 July 09 13:09 BST (UK) »
Where does the info about William come from - his date of birth, the fact that he was brought up by an aunt, the fact that he later discovered Isabella was his mum etc etc....
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: Bevan Orcop/Garway Herefordshire
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 09 July 09 16:55 BST (UK) »
Hi
William was my grandfather. His WW1 records state he was born in Hereford about 1879 (exact date not given). My mother remembers his birthday as 5th October. She also says that he was brought up with someone he believed to be his aunt but turned out to be his mother. She knows that Williams's mother (christian name not known) married a Mr Norman and that they lived in the Dudley area.  I found them on the 1891 census with William, but he is listed as a visitor, aged 11. I then found a marriage for Isabella Bevan to William NORMAN in 1884 (cert held).William BEVAN went on to marry Mary Hannah MORTON in 1907. I have also found information and a tree on familysearch.org

This is a difficult jigsaw to put together as my mother's older brothers and sisters have now all passed away.

Any help, advice or information would be much appreciated.

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Susan


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Re: Bevan Orcop/Garway Herefordshire
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 09 July 09 17:38 BST (UK) »
That is helpful.

I can see Isabella and her family in 1871
RG10 2702 77 13
Orcup
John 54
Eliza 50
Joseph 17
Isabella 12
John 9

then in 1881 her mother is still in Orcop, but neither Isabella or little William are there
Eliza 58 widow
John 18


We know that Isabella does not marry till later, but I wonder if she is living with William's father and he and Wm using his name?
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: Bevan Orcop/Garway Herefordshire
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 09 July 09 17:42 BST (UK) »
Is this not his birth?

Oct/Nov/Dec 1879
Hereford 6a 512

William Beavan
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: Bevan Orcop/Garway Herefordshire
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 09 July 09 19:43 BST (UK) »
I don't think it is this one. I have the birth certificate and it states  William Beavan - father and Harriet Beavan formerly Ireland - mother. DOB 15th November 1879.
We think William was born out of wedlock.

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Susan


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Re: Bevan Orcop/Garway Herefordshire
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 11 July 09 19:04 BST (UK) »
We know that Isabella does not marry till later, but I wonder if she is living with William's father and he and Wm using his name?

Don't know whether this is any use, but Isabella is not living with William Norman in 1881.  William is with his parents (he obviously followed his father in the waterworks inspecting line!) here : RG11; Piece: 2867; Folio: 109; Page: 3

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Re: Bevan Orcop/Garway Herefordshire
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 11 July 09 19:28 BST (UK) »
Thanks

I know that Isabella married William Norman on 24th December 1884 (I have the certificate).

I also know that Isabella's parents were probably John BEVAN/BEAVAN and Elizabeth (Eliza) GOUGH.

I can't find her birth either. She was born in 1859 but the only birth I can find gives an Isabella with parents
listed as George Bevan and Eliza Bevan formerly Jones which is incorrect as Isabella gives her fathers name as
John on her marriage certificate to William Norman.

If I can solve this puzzle I will be able to trace the family back as I belive John was the brother of James Bevan
who went to America.

Help!!!

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Re: Bevan Orcop/Garway Herefordshire
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 11 July 09 19:44 BST (UK) »
Was your Isabella christened on 13 Feb 1859 in Orcop?