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Re: James Rodgers Belfast
« Reply #9 on: Friday 17 July 09 09:26 BST (UK) »
Thanks all for the replies

I think he was a pre war regular soldier as I have a marriage cert for 1912 when he married a Catherine McGivern, stating his occupation as soldier.
But the address on the medal card is my grandfather Edward, who lived in the markets area of Belfast. 
I am confused about dates on the card after 1915 if he died in 1915?  I know he had another brother called Thomas also in the Inniskillen Fus at that time

I wish I could see some photos of the regiment - I wonder if any exist anywhere?

Lucy
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Re: James Rodgers Belfast
« Reply #10 on: Friday 17 July 09 10:43 BST (UK) »
The cards were filled out between 1919-1922 thats why there are different dates on the cards...if enquiries were made after that date they are also on it latest ive seen was 1979
Medals were sent out between those dates also.

http://www.inniskilling.com/

Have you tried here for info?

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Re: James Rodgers Belfast
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 19 July 09 02:32 BST (UK) »
Ive also discovered my Great x 2 grandfather was in the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers. He was awarded the 15 Star, British War Medal and the Victory Cross, discgarged class Z,  28/12/19
Theatre of war: (2B) Balkans...is that 2nd Battalion?
His medal card says entry therein 11/07/15..does that mean when he went there?
His name was Francis Moran, I have photos of him but i would love to see any of the uniform etc. My gran remembers him showing her how to do turbans..
Areas: Moneymore, Magherafelt, Donegal, to Glasgow
Names: Moran, Gallagher, Mcgettigan

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Re: James Rodgers Belfast
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 19 July 09 12:49 BST (UK) »
'15 Star' is shorthand for the 1914-1915 Star. Date he 'entered theatre' is when he went overseas. '2B' is the code for Gallipoli (Dardanelles) . These last two are to prove his entitlement to the 1914-1915 Star.

Class Z Reserve was a reserve of men who were discharged but were under an obligation to be recalled if fighting started again. The date is when he was transferred into Z Reserve.

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/medals.asp

http://www.1914-1918.net/reserve.htm

http://www.1914-1918.net/skins.htm

He may have been in the 1st Battalion or either the 5th or 6th. A 'skins’ expert on the Great War Forum may be able to tell you when his number was issued, and in which battalion. If not you will have to visit Kew and look at the actual medal roll using the references on the card.

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Re: James Rodgers Belfast
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 21 July 09 19:22 BST (UK) »
Thank you all for the above,
much appreciated
Lucy

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Re: James Rodgers Belfast
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 11 August 18 02:06 BST (UK) »
I have come across a form listing the effects of the deceased soldiers.  James Joseph Rodgers is on the list and his meagre funds are devided among his brothers , and strangely not his wife Catherine. But a mystery sister in law Mary is mentioned.
I am having trouble attaching a copy of this, but if anyone can access it, I would be grateful to know what the writing in red says, above his brother Thomas name.
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Re: James Rodgers Belfast
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 11 August 18 08:05 BST (UK) »
Not the list but this may be useful
Will of James Joseph Rodgers 10076
http://soldierswills.nationalarchives.ie/reels/sw/RodgersJ_E123533.pdf

There are two more James Rodgers wills, 70773 and 12664
http://soldierswills.nationalarchives.ie/search/sw/index.jsp


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Re: James Rodgers Belfast
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 11 August 18 08:51 BST (UK) »
Thank you. Yes that is the correct will, I already found it a while back. It was written in March and he was killed in June 15.  It's a mystery to me how there is no mention of his wife Catherine McGivern but perhaps I am mistaken with that record.

It is such a terrible life to have lived - as he was born in 1892 and both parents died in 1904, leaving three younger boys who went into a home somewhere as orphans.   All except my grandfather Edward joined the army as far as I know. I am certain of Thomas, who survivived WW1 and went missing from the Australian army in 1941, but I also think John joined and died in WW1. And possibly William who was an older brother of James.
Tough times...
I tried several times to attach the record I found, which was written around 1920 I think, but no luck.

Thanks again for your reply.
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Re: James Rodgers Belfast
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 11 August 18 09:37 BST (UK) »
The address for Thomas on the will is the same as Catherine's when she married James.