Looking for Valliant

[girlstitcher]

Hi

Wonder if anyone can help I have been  searching for my great grandmother and her family

GGM is Pauline Amelia Valliant born  1859, on her birth certificate her father is George Valliant general labourer and her mother is Christina Richards living at Park Row East Street Walworth.

She is on the 1881 census as Porline Emily Pointer, having married about 1879, on her marriage certificate it states her father George was deceased but a horse dealer,....................... that is a far as my story goes

information would be wonderful

Many thanks

[girlstitcher]

Hello

Wonder if someone can help

My great grandmother was Pauline Amelia Valliant born on 17th August 1859

Her birth certificate states that her father was George a general dealer and her mother Christina formerly Richards

She was registered St Peter Walworth Newington

The address 12 Park Row East Street Walworth

I have already found her on the 1881 census  when she married but nothing else in between

any information would be wonderful as I really  have searched and searched and hit the proverbial brick wall

[Calver]

This 1871 entry looks like too much of a coincidence! ...

1871 Census - RG10/620 F.81 P.35
20 Angle Street, St Mary Newington, London

William Everard - Head - 43 - Translater - b. Maldon, Essex
Christian? - Wife - 45 - Nurse - b. Hair St, Brick Lane, Spitalfields
Edward - Son - 19 - Errand Boy - b. Bale's? Pond, Islington
Louisa Elizabeth - Dau - 14 - Servant - b. Edward St, Bermondsey
Pauline Amelia - Dau - 12 - b. Walworth
Sarah Ann - Dau - 7 - Henry St, St Georges Boro

Regards,
John

[girlstitcher]

Hello John

Is it too much of a coincidence or have I struck gold!!!! Ha Ha

I think it is most certainly worth a little more digging as it more than I have discovered so far

Many thanks for your help

Yvonne

[Calver]

Hello Yvonne,

I couldn't find anything in 1861 last night but will have another look this evening.

I think we are looking for a re-marriage for Christina Valliant to William Everard.

Who did Pauline Amelia marry in 1879, and can you post the 1881 census reference?

Regards,
John

[girlstitcher]

Hello John

Many thanks for your quick reply, that is certainly interesting ? re-marriage
is that why I have been unable to find anything out

The 1881 census  is RG11 Piece 0545 / 5 Page number 3
as you will see the spelling of Pauline is totally different

As you see she married Arthur Albert Pointer 2nd June 1879 they both resided at 9 Elstead Street. All Saints Church Newington

The marriage certificate although not a good copy states Robert Poynter was a compositor and deceased
George Valliant was also deceased and shows him as a horsedealer.

He too has been a bit of a mystery, I did get a George Valliants death certificate  who died 6th January 1864 living at 11 William Street Star Corner Bermondsey, it states he was 44  a Tanner  ( journeyman ) and the person present at his death was Ann Valiant (different  spelling) so I presumed that was his wife, I may have been on the wrong track with that one, maybe she just registered the death

I hope that I have given the information you were looking for

Look forward to hearing from you

All the best

Yvonne

[Calver]

Hello Yvonne,

I'm afraid I've drawn a complete blank on these people prior to 1871. There's a gap in the 1861 census districts - district 44 - but I don't know if its intentional or not. The annoying thing is its in the right area for Park Row in St Peter Walworth.

Have you found Arthur and Pauline after 1881?

I'll come back to you if I have an inspiration!

Regards,
John

[CaroleW]

Another post here

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=767221.new#new

[Mickg0321]

Hi, I'm the grandson of Sarah Ann Everard in the Everard Richards family you are referring to in this thread. Youngest child of Youngest child and yes, I am that old.
Pauline Amelia is in there 1861 Census as just Amelia. You will also find Maud Pointer n the 1911 Census for James Quinton and Sarah Ann his wife though at their 1884 marriage, for some reason, she gave her father's name as William Richards, instead of Everard. There's a long story to go with that but doesn't effect anything you are looking at.  Some of William and Christian's children are difficult to trace records for and so Birth records are missing. Others are documented but I have not ordered all the birth records from GRO, that gets expensive.
Christian Everard Widow was with Sarah Ann and James in 1891 as Visitor.
I cannot find marriages for Christian[a] with either Edward Everard or George Valliant (or variants) but I have sufficient DNA matches with earlier Richards and Everards to be pretty confdent about what I have found.

Hope this helps.

Mick