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Marriage Thitchener/Pool(e) Pre 1841
« on: Friday 24 July 09 22:27 BST (UK) »
Am looking for the marriage between a William Thitchener/Thicthener/Titchener and an Ann Pool(e) somewhere in Yorkshire pre 1841. William was born around 1806-1810 and am presuming Ann born roughly round same date range. William was a watch/clockmaker born St Luke's, London.  I believe Ann's family were of the same profession, and think her fathers name was Henry.  Any help would be very much appreciated.
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Titchener, (Leicester, London, Middx)
Thitchener, (London, Middx)
Thicthener, (London, Middx)
Vernon, Islington
Pool(e) Islington, Hendon
Purdue, Islington, Hendon
Ward

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Re: Marriage Thitchener/Pool(e) Pre 1841
« Reply #1 on: Friday 24 July 09 23:58 BST (UK) »
Hi

On your previous post  http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,388734.0.html
eldest child is shown as 2yrs old

Have you already seen and dismissed the Sept qtr 1840 marriage on freebmd in Holborn?

Spelling of surname is correct  http://freebmd.rootsweb.com
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Carlin (Ireland & Liverpool) Doughty & Wright (Liverpool) Dick & Park (Scotland & Liverpool)

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Re: Marriage Thitchener/Pool(e) Pre 1841
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 26 July 09 23:32 BST (UK) »
Hi Carole
My sister has the marriage certificate you referred to but is not convinced it is the correct one.  Reason being we know of three sons, Henry (1840), William(1845) and Robert (my GGGrandfather - 1846). The 1841 census couple had Ann 2(1839) William 1(1840) and we have not been able to find the extended family on the 1851 census. Plus, my sister believes there is a Yorkshire connection through Ann Pool(e)'s family so I thought I'd give it a try.  Trying to break down the brick wall!! Also, we do seem to have problems with getting records in respect of St Luke's Parish and just don't seem to be able to move forward.

Thank you so much for picking up on my latest post but I don't want to detract from the search in Middlesex - just extending it (on behalf of my sister really because I'm not convinced).
Many thanks, Gwen
Titchener, (Leicester, London, Middx)
Thitchener, (London, Middx)
Thicthener, (London, Middx)
Vernon, Islington
Pool(e) Islington, Hendon
Purdue, Islington, Hendon
Ward

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Re: Marriage Thitchener/Pool(e) Pre 1841
« Reply #3 on: Monday 27 July 09 01:07 BST (UK) »
So you know it's Ann Pool(e) because you have Henry/Robert's birth cert?  and that Holborn William married Ann Sarah Elkington? (St Luke is in the Holborn reg district too)

It seems odd that William lives in London, they marry in Yorkshire then Henry is born in Islington.
GREENWELL - Middlesbrough
TURNBULL - Houghton le Spring, Coxhoe, Spennymoor
DEVEY - Pentonville, Stockton, M'bro
MOHAN/HUN - Stockton on Tees
SCRAFTON - Darlington
BROADBENT - Saddleworth, Ashton Under Lyne
HEMSWELL - Grantham, M'bro
SIMPKINS - M'bro
SIMPKIN - Little Wratting, Suffolk
MALLALIEU - Saddleworth, Ashton U L
GOODWIN - Macclesfield Forest
SUTCLIFFE - Heptonstall, Ashton U L
PLIMMER - Pontesbury, Ashton U L
CAMBRIDGE - Goulborne, Ashton U L
SIDDALL - Ashton U L


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Re: Marriage Thitchener/Pool(e) Pre 1841
« Reply #4 on: Monday 27 July 09 02:00 BST (UK) »
Having found them on the 1851 census (transcribed as Thretener)

Ann is down as born Whitby approx 1808/9   There is an Ann Pool in Whitby born 1808 but her parents are John and Mary.  No sign of a marriage in Whitby on the IGI or BiVRI
GREENWELL - Middlesbrough
TURNBULL - Houghton le Spring, Coxhoe, Spennymoor
DEVEY - Pentonville, Stockton, M'bro
MOHAN/HUN - Stockton on Tees
SCRAFTON - Darlington
BROADBENT - Saddleworth, Ashton Under Lyne
HEMSWELL - Grantham, M'bro
SIMPKINS - M'bro
SIMPKIN - Little Wratting, Suffolk
MALLALIEU - Saddleworth, Ashton U L
GOODWIN - Macclesfield Forest
SUTCLIFFE - Heptonstall, Ashton U L
PLIMMER - Pontesbury, Ashton U L
CAMBRIDGE - Goulborne, Ashton U L
SIDDALL - Ashton U L

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Re: Marriage Thitchener/Pool(e) Pre 1841
« Reply #5 on: Monday 27 July 09 21:21 BST (UK) »
Hi Madpants
I'm begining to think I'm looking at completely different datasets to every other researcher on the planet as I've trawled through so many variations on the surname and never before seen Thretener featured in any of them.  So thank you so much for the find on the 1851 Census - I'll go back and have a look for it myself. Birth certs definitely say mothers name was Pool(e) but I agree that it would seem bizarre to be living in London and marrying in Yorkshire.  I'm assuming you're saying the census record you're referring to was for London not Yorkshire?
Many thanks once again
Gwen
Titchener, (Leicester, London, Middx)
Thitchener, (London, Middx)
Thicthener, (London, Middx)
Vernon, Islington
Pool(e) Islington, Hendon
Purdue, Islington, Hendon
Ward

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Re: Marriage Thitchener/Pool(e) Pre 1841
« Reply #6 on: Monday 27 July 09 21:35 BST (UK) »
The transcriptions may vary depending on which provider you're using, but the 1851 census reference of HO107/1517/79/10 should find the family for you regardless of provider if you leave out names.

They're in Clerkenwell, London.

Anna
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Marriage Thitchener/Pool(e) Pre 1841
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 28 July 09 00:20 BST (UK) »
Sorry, I thought you'd have the census' or I'd have posted the RG numbers.
GREENWELL - Middlesbrough
TURNBULL - Houghton le Spring, Coxhoe, Spennymoor
DEVEY - Pentonville, Stockton, M'bro
MOHAN/HUN - Stockton on Tees
SCRAFTON - Darlington
BROADBENT - Saddleworth, Ashton Under Lyne
HEMSWELL - Grantham, M'bro
SIMPKINS - M'bro
SIMPKIN - Little Wratting, Suffolk
MALLALIEU - Saddleworth, Ashton U L
GOODWIN - Macclesfield Forest
SUTCLIFFE - Heptonstall, Ashton U L
PLIMMER - Pontesbury, Ashton U L
CAMBRIDGE - Goulborne, Ashton U L
SIDDALL - Ashton U L

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Re: Marriage Thitchener/Pool(e) Pre 1841
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 29 July 09 21:36 BST (UK) »
many thanks avm23 & madpants for help with census info, put's a little more of a dent in the brick wall. Will now try to get a look at the census return.
Gwen
Titchener, (Leicester, London, Middx)
Thitchener, (London, Middx)
Thicthener, (London, Middx)
Vernon, Islington
Pool(e) Islington, Hendon
Purdue, Islington, Hendon
Ward