1851 CENSUS LOOK UP JOHN PACEY

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What a wonderful board this is!!!!
Thank you all so much for all your ferretting. I will post the details from the birth cert. when I get it.

I was surprised freeBMD didn't show the marriage when I put in Tibb(s) and phonetic variations, and Pickering.

I have just probably found why Sarah Ann was living with her grandparents. There is a death of Mary Ann Tebb June Qtr. 1864 registered in Belper district.

Now I have to explain it all to my American cousin!!!!!!!

regards
Eric

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You are welcome....

I see you have posted while I was typing this...


Maybe the reason Sarah Ann Tibbs is with her grandparents is because her mother died?

FreeBMD
Deaths JunQ 1864   
TEBB  Mary Ann     Belper  7b 285

It is also on FindMyPast at Ripley and her age is given as 21yrs, but she doesn’t appear to have been buried at Ripley All Saints.

It didn’t take William long to remarry =

Marriage – All Saints, Ripley. – 23rd October 1864
WILLIAM TEBB, age 32yrs, Wid. Collier, residence Ripley, father John Tebb, Labourer
HARRIET SIMPSON, aged 26 yrs, Wid, occupation Green Grocer, father John Hill.
Both signed
Witnesses = Daniel Hill & Mary Jane Crowston.

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 The Brentnall/Pickering connection.

1) A Robert Pickering married Mary Bradley in 1805 and they had about 8 children between 1806 and 1822 in Bilborough and later Greasley. Then about 1823 Robert died.

2) A John Brentnall married Susannah Draper in 1805 and they had some 6 or 7 children between 1807 and 1823. Then Susannah died.

3)John Brentnall married Mary Pickering (Bradley) in 1824, and they had 2 more children.

So the 1841 census  comprises John and Mary and children some of his, some of hers and some of theirs!!!!!!

Eric

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Hello Eric,

I thought I would try and find the Pacy/Pickering marriage to help you sort out the family, although I can see you seem to have it mostly sorted now, although it looks like Robert Pickering married twice; I have thrown a few more in case they help any……
I don’t know where any of them were buried but it wasn’t in Greasley.

Kind regards

Sheila.


From Phillimore’
Marriage at Nottingham St Nicholas – 1st September 1805
ROBERT PICKERING & MARY BRADLEY, both of this parish


MARRIAGES below all took place at St Mary’s Church Greasley

22nd October 1798 – By Banns
ROBERT PICKERING of the parish of Bilborough, bachelor &
MARGARET ROBINSON, spinster.
Both signed their mark X
In the presence of: Henerey Soan? & John Padley
~ ~ ~ ~ ~

2nd September 1805 – By Banns
JOHN BRENTNALL of this parish &
SUSANNAH DRAPER of the said parish
John signed, Susannah X
In the presence of: Joseph Hays & Joseph Ellis
~ ~ ~ ~ ~

4th May 1823 – By Banns
ELIJAH BRENTNALL & HANNAH ALDRED, both of this parish.
Both signed
In the presence of: Gervas Hives?, Sarah Eyley & John Matthews
~ ~ ~ ~ ~

23rd September 1824 – By Banns
JOHN BRENTNALL & MARY PICKERING, both of the parish
John signed, Mary X
In the presence of: John Chambers, Ann Bradley X & John Matthews
~ ~ ~ ~ ~

5th December 1830 – By Banns
WILLIAM ELLIOTT of the parish of Radford &
MARGARET PICKERING of this parish
William signed, Margaret X
In the presence of: James Dunk, Eleanor Elliott X & Joseph Gelstharp
~ ~ ~ ~ ~

16th October 1837 – By Banns
JOHN BRENTNALL, full age, bachelor, Coal Miner, address Kimberley.
Father John Brentnall, coal miner.
MARY HALLAM, a minor, spinster, FWK, address Kimberley.
Father John Hallam, FWK.
Both signed their mark X
In the presence of: John Holbrook, Sarah Pickering X & Joseph Gelstharp.
~ ~ ~ ~ ~

12th February 1844 – By Banns
THOMAS BROWN, full age, bachelor, coal miner, address Kimberley.
Father James Brown, Labourer.
SARAH PICKERING, full age, spinster, address Kimberley.
Father Robert Pickering, coal miner.
In the presence of: Joseph Jackson, Martha Marshall Pickering X & Joseph Gelstharp
~ ~ ~ ~ ~

30th December 1844 – By Banns
JOSEPH BRENTNALL, a minor, bachelor, coal miner, address Kimberley.
Father John Brentnall, coal miner.
HANNAH DAYKIN, full age, spinster, Lace runner, address Kimberley.
Father James Daykin, Stone Mason.
Both signed their mark X
In the presence of:
Stephen Daykin, Martha Marshall Pickering & Joseph Gelstharp.
~ ~ ~ ~ ~

18th November 1860 – By Banns
JOHN PACY, aged 39yrs, bachelor, coal miner, address Kimberley.
Father John Pacy, Labourer.
ELLEN PICKERING, aged 42yrs, spinster, address Kimberley.
Father Robert Pickering, coal miner.
Both signed their mark X
In the presence of: George Dale X, Margaret Elliott X, & John Attenborough
~ ~ ~ ~ ~

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Hi
I have now received the birth certificate for Sarah Ann Tibbs, which shows our investigations were correct.

b. 17th Dec 1863, Hammersmith Ripley, Sarah Ann, father William Tibbs, mother Mary Ann Tibbs formerly Pickering, father coal miner birth registered by Mary Ann Tibbs on 4th Jan 1864.

The surname is here shown as Tibbs.
 I have a photo of the wedding of Elizabeth Willmott, daughter of John Willmott and Sarah Ann Willmott( nee Tibbs).(1908) I presume the couple sitting next to the bride are the above, her mother and father.
I can probably extract a photo of Mary Ann if needed.

Thanks for all the effort which went into this topic.

Eric