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Robert Townsley 1815 Whitehavenn
« on: Sunday 02 August 09 14:04 BST (UK) »
Hi.
Trying to help someone with Robert Townsley born 1815 Whitehaven and a wife Betsy Lowther born 1809 (could be Whitehaven/Wigan/Ulverston - according to 1861 to 91 census)  No marriage found but suppose to be about 1838, Can only find them from 1851 and in 1861 the spelling was Jounsley.  They appear to have children Charles 1846 Robert 1848 - 1888 Ann 1849 - 1918 and Catherine 1851 - 1930. A William also appears on the 1861 census but the age is wrong it should read 18 so making him born in 1843.
An IGI record shows Ann christened 30 June 1844 to Robert & Elizabeth at All Saints Cockermouth who could be an earlier child who died.  The BMD records show a possible Charles/William & Catherine with dates that would fit but no Robert.

Could anyone locate the family in 1841 which might help throw a little more light on the mystery.
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Re: Robert Townsley 1815 Whitehavenn
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 04 August 09 22:34 BST (UK) »
Hi

Still trying to find  Robert in 1851. He lived at High Street. Workington in 1861, how can I find High Street. Workington on the 1851 census.

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Re: Robert Townsley 1815 Whitehavenn
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 04 August 09 23:16 BST (UK) »
Here are the Workington Enumeration Districts http://search.ancestry.co.uk/Browse/list.aspx?dbid=8860&path=Cumberland.Workington

One (or more) of the descriptions should contain parts of High St.  When you find which district, you can go through the district page by page to find High St and its households.
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Re: Robert Townsley 1815 Whitehavenn
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 06 August 09 22:25 BST (UK) »
Hi Detori128

Do you have any occupations for thse people?

I haven't got any direct information, but I've "Adopted" a friend's family who were involved with travellers and gypsies.  Two of the main families who also appear are the Townleys and Lowthers.  The Lowthers are a huge clan and I've seen loads of marriages for them.

Both groups are well represented in Cockermouth.  There is also a book by or about Town(s)ley gypsies.

I'll see what I've written down involving them when researching my friend's family.

The occupations I've seen involved are basketmaker, pottery and hardware sales, besom makers and similar.

Then of course there are the landed gentry Lowthers!

If you've got any more details it might give us ideas.  I will send the link to my friend, too.

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Re: Robert Townsley 1815 Whitehavenn
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 06 August 09 23:10 BST (UK) »
Hi Emms,

I will give you what information I have but I am helping someone else, so I need to go back to her to ask how she knows Roberts wife was a Lowther. As far as I know she hasn't found a marriage.
You mentioned Cockermouth and interestingly there is a birth of Ann to a Robert & Elizabeth 30 June 1844 but she would have had to have died because they had a daughter in 1849 Workington who went onto marry Mirehouse Newton.

Robert first appears in the 1861 census under a mis-spelling of Jounsley at High Street.  He is a coal miner in 1861 1871 & a carter in 1881 & 1891 - died in 1897.
The sons William 1843 Whitehaven, Charles 1846 Whitehaven & Robert 1848 Workington appear to be coal-miners or carter.
Son, Robert 1848 died in the St Helens Colliery. Workington  explosion in April 1888.

A daughter Catherine was born Dec 1851 (birth cert says High Street)  Workington but the census that year was 31 March 1851 & so far we haven't found them. We are slowly going through all the scans and wonder if Town Head later became High Street ?
1871 34 High Street.
1881 38 High Street
1891 61 King Street.
Robert died 1997 Betsy 1899.

Many thanks, all help much appreciated. It really is a problem one.
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Sandra.


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Re: Robert Townsley 1815 Whitehavenn
« Reply #5 on: Friday 07 August 09 12:14 BST (UK) »
Hi Detori

I'll print those details off and have a think.

I know High St Whitehaven, but I'm not as good at Workington.  I'll have a look at the maps, but someone else will know.

I'll see what I've got.

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Re: Robert Townsley 1815 Whitehavenn
« Reply #6 on: Friday 07 August 09 12:21 BST (UK) »
Hi again.

I skimmed through Workington in my Bulmers 1901 and can't see High Street at all.  Nearest is High Church Street.  Unless it was out at High Harrington?

I'll have another look.

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Re: Robert Townsley 1815 Whitehavenn
« Reply #7 on: Friday 07 August 09 12:29 BST (UK) »
Hi

Right, obvious to the locals, I'm sure and I wondered - I know it but not by name - it's from the main shopping streets going up to thhe Whitehaven Road, the A596, that joins the A595.

I Googled and pressed maps - you'll see it very easily!

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Re: Robert Townsley 1815 Whitehavenn
« Reply #8 on: Friday 07 August 09 12:38 BST (UK) »
Here are the Workington Enumeration Districts http://search.ancestry.co.uk/Browse/list.aspx?dbid=8860&path=Cumberland.Workington

One (or more) of the descriptions should contain parts of High St.  When you find which district, you can go through the district page by page to find High St and its households.

Obviously no one bothered to do what I said.

Look here http://tinyurl.com/n8zk44
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