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Re: Lloyd London Mystery
« Reply #198 on: Monday 04 October 10 14:14 BST (UK) »
I can read more that I thought!

No mention of JBL throughout.
The executors George Cruickshanks, Joshua Evans and [Barnard Barret/Darwood Banner? not sure on his name] complete control on his estate and sale of assets.
The will made in January 1823.
Elizabeth to have benefit of his assets in her lifetime.
At her death, William Battersby who in 1823 resided in the Plantation, the Colony of Gxxxx, was to be the main beneficiary. From the last paraghaph, looks like William Battersby may have already died by the time of William's death?
The address at the time of William's death certainly matches that burial entry we had: William Fairclough, 61, 21 Upper Stamford Street, Lamberth, burial at All Souls cemetery, onn 21 December 1840. By default that other possible entry for Elizabeth in 1844 you would think be the correct one.

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« Reply #199 on: Monday 04 October 10 16:12 BST (UK) »
also buried at a all souls, George Cruickshanks, but is it the same one ?
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/speel/illus/cruik.htm

from another site
In 1818 George Cruikshank joined forces with Radical publisher and bookseller, William Hone,

would be cool if its the same george  ;D
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« Reply #200 on: Monday 04 October 10 19:56 BST (UK) »
Would be interesting if it was the same George....but don't think George the bookseller was still alive when William died late 1840. The surviving executors show as Joshua Evans and the name I can't decipher 100%. In this last last paragraph of the will, it looks like B/Darwood Banner  ???

 
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Re: Lloyd London Mystery
« Reply #201 on: Monday 04 October 10 20:36 BST (UK) »
oh well  ;D

how about Harwood Banner, gentleman Accountant, liverpool (1851 census)
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Re: Lloyd London Mystery
« Reply #202 on: Monday 04 October 10 20:46 BST (UK) »
That's about as close as I have seen! Would fit well with the Liverpool connections and his age to be William Fairclough's peer.

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I think the name is not Harwood Banner but Harmood Banner, unusual name. He is well reported on:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harmood_Banner
www.stjamescemetery.co.uk/banner.htm

Lots of links on the family. A grandson of his was Sir John Sutherland Harmood Banner, first baronet (18471927), who amongst his many activities and accolades, was Mayor of Liverpool in 1912. A leading business figure.

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Re: Lloyd London Mystery
« Reply #203 on: Saturday 23 October 10 23:44 BST (UK) »
google books,

william fairclough, clerk in customs, 18 norton st, Liverpool 1824
(previously home to william lassell, builder of big telescopes)
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Re: Lloyd London Mystery
« Reply #204 on: Sunday 24 October 10 19:11 BST (UK) »
You realise with everything that has been found (huge amount!), we are still banging our heads trying to get past JBL's parents, Benjamin and Elizabeth (Collins)  :'( :'( ;D

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Re: Lloyd London Mystery
« Reply #205 on: Sunday 24 October 10 23:23 BST (UK) »
we could just do with benjamins will, he must have had one, being a merchant ?
but where did he die, liverpool or worcs ?
 and Elizabeths will, why did some of her money go to James Collins, and whats the flipping link between her and James ???
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Re: Lloyd London Mystery
« Reply #206 on: Wednesday 03 November 10 22:48 GMT (UK) »
a slight tangent,
JBL had a daughter Ada born aprox 1850 in Bow, but she has gone by the next census,
I can't find any record of her birth etc but there is a burial in All souls (where jbl's mother  was buried) of an Ada georgiana Elizabeth Lloyd in 1853,
 he later uses the names georgina (slight diff spelling)and elizabeth as 2 of his other daughters middle names,
is this burial 'our' Ada ?
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