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Re: Lloyd London Mystery
« Reply #306 on: Saturday 24 June 17 21:04 BST (UK) »
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skin disease on face

That line is possibly for the next prisoner down, not JBL.

There is a brief report of JBL's trial in The Times of 22 January 1874, page 10, column 6.
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Re: Lloyd London Mystery
« Reply #307 on: Sunday 25 June 17 01:25 BST (UK) »
Hi Shaun,
had another look at the record, I don't think it could be the chap underneath, its too close to JBL's and theres a large gap before the other one,  unfortunately !  :)
I've had a look at the newspaper report, thank you for finding it !! he still seems to be a bit of a rebel , lol  , and how did you find it? i've searched 'John Ballard Lloyd' and nothing comes up apart from a couple from 1850's ?

 
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Re: Lloyd London Mystery
« Reply #308 on: Sunday 25 June 17 01:32 BST (UK) »
love how he even jokes about not taking as long as the Tichborne trial, which had lasted 3 years  ;D
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« Reply #309 on: Sunday 25 June 17 06:03 BST (UK) »
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and how did you find it? i've searched 'John Ballard Lloyd' and nothing comes up apart from a couple from 1850's ?


It is in Palmer's Index https://goo.gl/BRWAhu
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Re: Lloyd London Mystery
« Reply #310 on: Sunday 25 June 17 12:19 BST (UK) »
ohh I've not seen that before, thanks :)
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Re: Lloyd London Mystery
« Reply #311 on: Monday 26 June 17 13:47 BST (UK) »
I popped in to the Wandsworth Local History and Heritage Archives located at Battersea Library...as one does... ::)

They hold the microfilms for burials at St Mary's Cemetery (also known as the Battersea Rise Cemetery).

The 1877 burial entry for 8 August 1877 a little different to what showed on A/try but I would say certainly the same entry:

John Lloyd, 70 years (not 78). Died at the Infirmary (likely at the Union Workhouse). Buried at Battersea Rise Cemetery. Undertaker named simply as Boyce. Buried at C Ground, grave number 8225.

Other people show on the page with the same grave number so very likely common ground. What would be good to find would be a map of sections/numbers etc. Unfortunately, the archives didn't have one but I am wondering if WBC http://burials.wandsworth.gov.uk/ may help further in this respect?

Monica
I emailed them and they have just replied,
they have sent maps with all the grave numbers on but i can't find 8225 in ground C :(
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Re: Lloyd London Mystery
« Reply #312 on: Monday 26 June 17 14:07 BST (UK) »
 ;D I got the same email too earlier! I am at work so have my son (who is home on study leave and has followed the story over the years with me!) looking through the attachments also.

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Re: Lloyd London Mystery
« Reply #313 on: Monday 26 June 17 14:23 BST (UK) »
haha great minds , closest i can find is 8221 in another section,  you'd think there would be a biggish plot if they were using it for people from the workhouse, keep all the paupers together ?
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Re: Lloyd London Mystery
« Reply #314 on: Monday 26 June 17 14:36 BST (UK) »
He has sent me a text & clip to say he has found it!  Let me get home and have a look at the whole page for that attachment and try to place it within the cemetery. For such a small cemetery, as you can see from the 13 attachments or so, it is packed to the gills. You can also see how they ran out of space quickly there....

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