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Re: Lloyd London Mystery
« Reply #324 on: Tuesday 27 June 17 12:53 BST (UK) »
the certificate has come!
says 'formerly a baker''  so that fits in with the 1871 census at the Wandsworth Workhouse, (63, baker, born in Worcester)
and really, he was a baker for at least 5 years, first at the shop in Mitcham and then in Battersea
so looking at all the evidence , I think that this is our man
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Re: Lloyd London Mystery
« Reply #325 on: Tuesday 27 June 17 13:38 BST (UK) »
That certainly helps making me more certain that this is our man!

We didn't think over the years that we could get to this point  ::)

Just need to take pups there when I am not working this week, with the schedules and plan we got from WBC...

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Re: Lloyd London Mystery
« Reply #326 on: Tuesday 27 June 17 14:34 BST (UK) »

Would you be able to post the plot layout on L&M resources?

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/london-middlesex-resources/

Might help other people.


Sure will later today, Dawn.  :)

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Re: Lloyd London Mystery
« Reply #327 on: Tuesday 27 June 17 14:48 BST (UK) »
As confirmed from JBL's death cert and the burial register, photo below of the infirmary - http://boroughphotos.org/wandsworth/wandsworth-infirmary-st-johns-hill-2/

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Re: Lloyd London Mystery
« Reply #328 on: Tuesday 27 June 17 15:19 BST (UK) »
That certainly helps making me more certain that this is our man!

We didn't think over the years that we could get to this point  ::)

Just need to take pups there when I am not working this week, with the schedules and plan we got from WBC...

Monica

its funny that we had the 1871 census years ago, but its taken all this time to come back to it :)
I wonder if theres anything left to find about him now, lol surely he's got a few more stories in the papers ...
We still never got anywhere with his mum tho, she's still behind that brickwall  ???

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Re: Lloyd London Mystery
« Reply #329 on: Tuesday 27 June 17 15:22 BST (UK) »
oooo wow thats a brilliant picture ! it's huge,  :)
wish there were more records available
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Re: Lloyd London Mystery
« Reply #330 on: Tuesday 27 June 17 15:30 BST (UK) »
The site was huge. See old map here www.workhouses.org.uk/Wandsworth/ (Don't laugh...I do pilates at a new studio just across from it  ::) ;D).

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Re: Lloyd London Mystery
« Reply #331 on: Tuesday 27 June 17 19:41 BST (UK) »
we'll probably find out next that he lived in your house once ;D
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Re: Lloyd London Mystery
« Reply #332 on: Thursday 29 June 17 22:32 BST (UK) »
JBL was not lonely bones in his grave at 8225. We know that there were at least two other burials the next day on the 9 August 1877 in the common ground grave site.

There were more burials in the next decade, 10 years later exactly. One young 18 year old, Alice Moore was also buried at 8225 in common ground. Her parents Eliza and Charles are also buried there later. I have had lovely help in the last couple of days. I have spoken today with the helpful lady at http://enablelc.org/bereavement/about/ to confirm what I was finding in the burial registers. She confirmed that there were indeed 6 people buried there. Four of them were in there, up to Alice Moore in 1887, with the grave classified as common ground (therefore there had been no payment for their burial). The lady checked records and believes that Alice's parents then paid for their burials. You would think they wanted to buried very much with their daughter Alice. Eliza died first in 1893 and then husband Charles died in 1908. They paid for a stone too....and it remain today on the ground but very legible. It is this fact that help confirm the exact location of JBL's burial place.

Would have been hard to as precise without having found the surviving stone for the Moore family so thank you to them  ;)

I am still amazed at the proximity of the graves. Being there and looking at the small space I was looking out between the graves I had identified, I could not easily imagine that there were so many graves laid out there.

So there you go, we have JBL's exact burial spot in the end...and he is not lonely at all!

I will add some other bits below....
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