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Re: Searching for Molly Richings - Gloucestershire
« Reply #9 on: Friday 14 August 09 09:31 BST (UK) »
any clues from the witnesses on the marriage certificate?
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Searching for Molly Richings - Gloucestershire
« Reply #10 on: Friday 14 August 09 16:29 BST (UK) »
Hi Osprey

Sadly no, nothing that leaps out anyway.

The witnesses were:
John Blizzard Richings (son of the errant John/Thomas Richings who scived off to NZ - from Lucy2 thread referred to in my 1st posting on this thread)

and Frederick Davis.

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White - South Marston (WILTS), Woolstone (BERKS)
Hathrill - Fernham (BERKS)
Wentworth - Little Bedwyn (WILTS), Uffington (BERKS)
Richings - Wotton-Under-Edge (GLOC)
de Jager - Groningen
de Jonge - Groningen
Smid - Groningen, Eindhoven
Werkhoven - Eindhoven

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Re: Searching for Molly Richings - Gloucestershire
« Reply #11 on: Friday 14 August 09 23:17 BST (UK) »
Do you have Bertha's death registration for a check on her age from that?

What about Fibis? Any help there?

http://www.fibis.org/

Or should we just make a run for the hills?

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Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Searching for Molly Richings - Gloucestershire
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 15 August 09 22:36 BST (UK) »
Thanks Osprey

No, unfortunately I don't know anything about Bertha at all.

I have found a Bertha King, aged 19, b 1882, born at Houghton, Essex  on the 1901 census RG13 2815/52/14

Maybe this is her.

I had a quick look on Fibis but couldn't find anything relevant, but will keep looking at some of the links from there.

If we assume that Frank and Bertha stayed at Aston-on-Carrant until their deaths, the district I think we probably need is Cheltenham.  I have had no joy at all with any of my Richings family on FreeBMD and have no idea when either Frank or Bertha died.

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White - South Marston (WILTS), Woolstone (BERKS)
Hathrill - Fernham (BERKS)
Wentworth - Little Bedwyn (WILTS), Uffington (BERKS)
Richings - Wotton-Under-Edge (GLOC)
de Jager - Groningen
de Jonge - Groningen
Smid - Groningen, Eindhoven
Werkhoven - Eindhoven


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Re: Searching for Molly Richings - Gloucestershire
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 16 August 09 11:32 BST (UK) »
On FreeBmd transcription of the GRO death reg index is complete under to 1910. Between 1910 & 1931 it's not far off and after that it's minimal. Ancestry has transcribed deaths 1984 - 2005. Until Ancestry put online their indexing (later this year?), there's only one way and that's searching through the complete index quarter by quarter.


Just double checked and how did I miss this reg last time I looked!   ::)

Marion Adeline Smith died July 1989 Cheltenham vol 22 pg 1329 birth date given as 18/5/1914

Possible for her husband May 1992 Cheltenham 22 1421 dob 3/8/1910

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Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Searching for Molly Richings - Gloucestershire
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 16 August 09 20:26 BST (UK) »
Fantastic - thanks Osprey. :) 8)

After 5 years I think I am finally getting started on this branch! The 1911 census was the first clue and now it is starting to fall into place with your wonderful help.

I will order the certificate for Marion this week and go from there.

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White - South Marston (WILTS), Woolstone (BERKS)
Hathrill - Fernham (BERKS)
Wentworth - Little Bedwyn (WILTS), Uffington (BERKS)
Richings - Wotton-Under-Edge (GLOC)
de Jager - Groningen
de Jonge - Groningen
Smid - Groningen, Eindhoven
Werkhoven - Eindhoven

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Re: Searching for Molly Richings - Gloucestershire
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 25 August 09 12:34 BST (UK) »
Thanks Osprey

No, unfortunately I don't know anything about Bertha at all.

I have found a Bertha King, aged 19, b 1882, born at Houghton, Essex  on the 1901 census RG13 2815/52/14

Maybe this is her.

I had a quick look on Fibis but couldn't find anything relevant, but will keep looking at some of the links from there.

If we assume that Frank and Bertha stayed at Aston-on-Carrant until their deaths, the district I think we probably need is Cheltenham.  I have had no joy at all with any of my Richings family on FreeBMD and have no idea when either Frank or Bertha died.

Cello

Good to see Molly is emerging thanks to Osprey. I ran the information about the Aston under Carrant connection around my Richings relatives in Gloucestershire and not surprisingly drew a complete blank.

Houhgton the village is in Cambridgeshire near Huntingdon but there is a Houghton Manor near Brentwood in Essex. I imagine it was a pretty rural area at the time so perhaps Bertha was a country lass or a domestic servant.

At first sight the mis- transcription of Houghton to Loughboro' seems a bit unlikely but if one is a bit careless with the H they both appear to start Lough and to squashed together easily looks like a b

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Re: COMPLETED: Searching for Molly Richings - Gloucestershire
« Reply #16 on: Monday 16 January 17 03:39 GMT (UK) »
Re: Molly Richings................... Frank is a very distinct possibility. I will check tomorrow and get back to you.

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