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Re: Brighty family - 1841/51 - Ramsey/Holme
« Reply #18 on: Sunday 16 August 09 02:42 BST (UK) »
Cracking news!  ;D

Faboulas work ladies and gentlemen, I can't praise all your help enough!

So what does that make us Selina? - Seems if my maths is right that your Gt. Gt. Grandparents are also my Gt. Gt. Gt. Gt Grandparents -  :D

I'd like very much to put John Brighty Stevens' stem on my tree, if your kind enough to want to but my Ann Brighty Stevens' stem on yours

Thanks Again everyone

Jonathan
LOUGHLIN - Galway, Ireland/Heywood, Lancs
HOWARTH - Rochdale
IVES - Rochdale. Originally Thurlstone, WR Yorkshire
BRIDGENS - Rochdale via Stourbridge
JACKSON - Prescot
PENKETH - Prescot
CONNOLLY - Kilmain, Ireland/Heywood, Lancs
WILD - Rochdale via Wolverhampton
SANDERSON - Rochdale
KNIGHT - Rochdale via Holme, Huntingdonshire
BARROW - Marton,Blackpool
DAGGER - Blackpool
BAILEY - Rochdale/Rushton, Staffordshire & Oldham
SERGINSON - London/Wolverhampton/Leeds/Manchester
BRIGGS - Doncaster

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Re: Brighty family - 1841/51 - Ramsey/Holme
« Reply #19 on: Sunday 16 August 09 04:55 BST (UK) »

There's only one Stevens marriage to an Alice in Hunts - William widower of Abbots Ripton to Alice Hammont at Huntingdon All Saints and St John in 1792. A bit earlier than the age range for Barnaby would imply, but might be worth investigating, in the absence of any other leads

Barnabas Brighty age 41 was buried at Ramsey on 1 March 1814, and an Alice Stevens age 40 on 17 Nov 1813. What was the date of Barnabas' will?

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David
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Re: Brighty family - 1841/51 - Ramsey/Holme
« Reply #20 on: Sunday 16 August 09 10:39 BST (UK) »
Hi David,

Thank you for the marriage details, as you say everything is worth bearing in mind.  I will also look to see if I followed back on the Alice that died.  There are three baptisms at Ramsey around the time mentioning a John and Alice Stevens and also just Alice.  I did find a solidier named John Stevens but no marriage so the name John has probably no connection at all!

As you say Barnabas Brighty was buried on 1 March 1814 aged 41 years.  His Will was dated 7 July 1812 and Proved 21 July 1814.  So indication is that Alice was married before July 1812.

I have the baptism of this Barnabas Brighty in 1773 and his marriage to a Mary Smith (Smyth) in 1797, there is a lot about his land on National Archives. 

I have looked for a Bastardy Order at Huntingdon R.O. but he obviously made his own provision for Alice's child, which says something in his favour!

My 2 x Gt. Grdfather, Barnabas was buried at Ramsey on 4 October 1866 under the name of BRIGHTY age 71 (I have cert).   From ages given on Census returns, he could have been born anywhere between 1794 and 1797.

At least when I 'did' this family it explained why my mother once remarked "your father's family didn't know who they were"!

Thanks again.

Selina


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Re: Brighty family - 1841/51 - Ramsey/Holme
« Reply #21 on: Sunday 16 August 09 10:45 BST (UK) »
Hi Jonathan,

At a quick calculation we are possibly 3rd cousins 3 times removed, but need to do that properly!

It would be better to exchange information directly so would you like to exchange email addresses via a pm?

Selina
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Re: Brighty family - 1841/51 - Ramsey/Holme
« Reply #22 on: Monday 17 August 09 01:46 BST (UK) »
This is a gripping saga!   :)

It is coming together nicely, well done everyone involved in the research.


Thankyou Selina, PM on its way

Jonathan
LOUGHLIN - Galway, Ireland/Heywood, Lancs
HOWARTH - Rochdale
IVES - Rochdale. Originally Thurlstone, WR Yorkshire
BRIDGENS - Rochdale via Stourbridge
JACKSON - Prescot
PENKETH - Prescot
CONNOLLY - Kilmain, Ireland/Heywood, Lancs
WILD - Rochdale via Wolverhampton
SANDERSON - Rochdale
KNIGHT - Rochdale via Holme, Huntingdonshire
BARROW - Marton,Blackpool
DAGGER - Blackpool
BAILEY - Rochdale/Rushton, Staffordshire & Oldham
SERGINSON - London/Wolverhampton/Leeds/Manchester
BRIGGS - Doncaster

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Re: Brighty family - 1841/51 - Ramsey/Holme
« Reply #23 on: Saturday 12 June 10 15:49 BST (UK) »
Hello Jonathan and Selina

I have just started researching my cousins family for our family tree and his Gt. Gt. Gt. Gt Grandparents are Barnabas and Keziah through the Palmer line

Kind Regards

Mike

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Re: Brighty family - 1841/51 - Ramsey/Holme
« Reply #24 on: Saturday 12 June 10 16:05 BST (UK) »
Hello, Mike

Its been some months since I last did any research on this side of my tree.

I have Mary Ann Brighty Stevens married to Thomas Palmer in 1852
They have  Emma, Charles, Susannah and Robert

That is all I have

Which of the children is your cousin decended from?

Thanks

Jonathan
LOUGHLIN - Galway, Ireland/Heywood, Lancs
HOWARTH - Rochdale
IVES - Rochdale. Originally Thurlstone, WR Yorkshire
BRIDGENS - Rochdale via Stourbridge
JACKSON - Prescot
PENKETH - Prescot
CONNOLLY - Kilmain, Ireland/Heywood, Lancs
WILD - Rochdale via Wolverhampton
SANDERSON - Rochdale
KNIGHT - Rochdale via Holme, Huntingdonshire
BARROW - Marton,Blackpool
DAGGER - Blackpool
BAILEY - Rochdale/Rushton, Staffordshire & Oldham
SERGINSON - London/Wolverhampton/Leeds/Manchester
BRIGGS - Doncaster

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Re: Brighty family - 1841/51 - Ramsey/Holme
« Reply #25 on: Saturday 12 June 10 22:51 BST (UK) »
Hello Mike,

As you will see from earlier replies, Barnabas and Kezia were my Great Great Grandparents, via their son John born 1840 who married Mary Ann Smith in 1859. 

I assume you are interested in Mary Ann Brighty Stevens, daughter of Barnabas and Kezia, who married Thomas Palmer?

Regards,

Selina
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Re: Brighty family - 1841/51 - Ramsey/Holme
« Reply #26 on: Sunday 13 June 10 06:35 BST (UK) »
Hello Selina and Jonathan

I have a child of Mary Ann and Thomas called Hannah Maria Palmer who had we believe an illegitimate son Robert born 8 Oct 1873 before she married Matthew Moore and had 3 children Catherine Charles and John. It looks like on the census that Robert was brought up by his Grand Mother Keziah.
Robert later started using the middle name Proud, another assumption is that was his fathers name.
Robert married Elizabeth Kilby and had five sons one of which George Cyril Palmer married Doris Eva Walker and had 4 sons and a daughter, one of the sons Maurice Christopher Palmer married my mothers sister Rita Howes which resulted in a family of 2 boys and three girls all living.

I have recently been contacted by Debbie Pike who's father Eric was one of George Cyril's boys

Kind Regards

Mike

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