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Offline rjknott

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Re: Who is that man?
« Reply #9 on: Friday 14 August 09 19:15 BST (UK) »
There is an Edward Bonner, 24, living in Portsmouth in 1911.

I haven't seen the original but, using the index, I think he is living with Louisa Bonner, 22; Jessie Bonner, 3; and Lily Bonner, 18m. He was there in 1901 as well, living with his family, where it shows he was born in Scotland (confirmed on the 1911). His parents were Daniel and Jane. Scotlands People have an Edward Bonner born in 1886 and 1887. He doesn't seem likely to be your Edward.

There is another Edward, 20, living in Southampton. He is a little young and I can't establish where he was born.

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Re: Who is that man?
« Reply #10 on: Friday 14 August 09 19:46 BST (UK) »
Thank you all for your help

I think I should apply for the marraige and death certs suggested to see if they help

I will let you know my findings. There is something a bit fishy here. Why was E Bonner not on the birth certs, why was Annie named Smith on her death cert if she married a Bonner, why was she named as a widow of Edward Smith???

Unless she married for a third time  ??? and its pure coincidence that she married someone with her first husbands surname and her second husbands christian name  :-\ :-\

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Re: Who is that man?
« Reply #11 on: Friday 14 August 09 20:47 BST (UK) »
As a small addition, I have now established that the Edward Bonner living in Southampton was Edward John C Bonner (b 1881) who married Olive Cracknell in Southampton in 1914, although they don't appear to have had any children. He is the wrong age and I can't see her death.

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Re: Who is that man?
« Reply #12 on: Friday 14 August 09 22:24 BST (UK) »
Although many flouted the rule I believe if the parents weren't legally married the father could not be named as such on the  birth certificate.   

I can only think that for some reason the marriage was found to be invalid (if Annie was definitely a widow then probably because Edward was already married) and maybe there will be a note of this on the marriage certificate.  As Annie was living where she'd  'married' presumably she wouldn't be able to go and register her childrens births as Bonner when the registrars would know that for some reason her marriage to Edward Bonner had been declared to be invalid.   So she had to register them in her previous name - Smith - and explains why each child was given the second name of Bonner.

Look forward to seeing what the certificates reveal.

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Re: Who is that man?
« Reply #13 on: Monday 17 August 09 10:24 BST (UK) »
Possible death:

Petersfield   Mar 1949
Edward Bonner   age 64

I don't know how accurate this age is.
The only Edward Bonner (no other names) that fits was born in Haslingden, Lancashire!, and the 1911 census clains that there aren't any Edward Bonners b Lancs.

Richard


Hello

I found the record for the marriage but not the death record for Edward Bonner in 1949. Searched on Ancestry using Edward Bonner, died 1949 in Petersfield and various dates around that time but found nothing?

 
Kent: Brown and Smith
Petersfield Hants: Bonner & Smith also Bonner-Smith

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Re: Who is that man?
« Reply #14 on: Monday 17 August 09 10:40 BST (UK) »
On Ancestry - 1949, Q1 listing - B, image 63 of 118. Index page number 96.

Bonner, Edward   64   Petersfield   vol6b   pg441
Rigg/Scholfield - Oldham/Rochdale
Hibbert/Moore - Hayfield/Saddleworth
Garstang/Kirby - Littleborough/Todmorden
Sutcliffe/Hill - Todmorden/Walsden
Young/Stevenson/Newbutt - Ticknall/Kegworth/Nutall/Hucknall/Bulwell
Woolley/Potter, Gaze/Parkins - Kegworth/Normanton-on-Soar/Wheathampstead/Harpenden
Smith/Green - Offley/Flamstead

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Re: Who is that man?
« Reply #15 on: Monday 17 August 09 11:05 BST (UK) »
On Ancestry - 1949, Q1 listing - B, image 63 of 118. Index page number 96.

Bonner, Edward   64   Petersfield   vol6b   pg441

Thanks

I cant find him with my search????? Never had that issue before.

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Re: Who is that man?
« Reply #16 on: Monday 17 August 09 11:55 BST (UK) »
The births and marriages are now searchable up to 2005 on ancestry, but you can only do that on the deaths after 1984 or before 1915 (free.bmd is now pretty good up to 1935). For deaths between c1935 and 1984 you have to search page by page. Is that the problem?

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Re: Who is that man?
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 20 August 09 12:59 BST (UK) »
Possible death:

Petersfield   Mar 1949
Edward Bonner   age 64

I don't know how accurate this age is.
The only Edward Bonner (no other names) that fits was born in Haslingden, Lancashire!, and the 1911 census clains that there aren't any Edward Bonners b Lancs.

Richard

Hello

I have applied for the certs and will up date the board with my findings.

The Edward Bonner born in Lanc 1885 tragically died in 1886.

 
Kent: Brown and Smith
Petersfield Hants: Bonner & Smith also Bonner-Smith