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Re: What happened to Ivor HOPWOOD who died in Australia
« Reply #45 on: Tuesday 19 October 21 15:05 BST (UK) »
Hello maxidog     

   ... our posts crossed - meaning I had not seen your reply before I sent my last post.
And it seems you've been able to reinstate your former registration, and get back to using your original name ?

No, a medal is not required (nor are they sought around here) ... that information was fairly freely available on a "pay site" although it may only have been a recent addition.     "No"  too,  to being "professional" ... just returning favours.  I once received wonderful help myself, from RootsChatters.   ;)

The "arrival" information I gave you is "credible".   It is an official record of the Australian Government / Immigration service, of that era.

With regard to the NZ death record - when you find it - there is no need to post a copy of the  actual certificate or printout, you can just do a transcription of the information it contains. 

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Re: What happened to Ivor HOPWOOD who died in Australia
« Reply #46 on: Tuesday 19 October 21 15:34 BST (UK) »
I had searched electoral roll records when in Auckland library and a librarian gave me a lot of guidance on further esearch whilst there but, like you, we couldn't find his name on any electoral roll there.
It is annoying that I cannot find all the official records I collected but I clearly remember that the anticipated, more lengthy New Zealand death certificate yielded little information as most area had 'not recorded' alongside them. It was interesting that he had named his younger brother as next of kin and no his identical twin brother - or even me as his daughter. It also recorded marital status as 'separated'.
There was no facility on that death record to record the number of years in New Zealand.
I am not sure whether I have mentioned contacting the tax office in New Zealand to find out any tax records as his death certificate said he was a 'telecommunications engineer' and I was told that there was only one telecommunications company in NZ at that time. I was told that had no tax records for him.
I did find that he had spent 3 nights in a Salvation Army Hostel in Auckland and had the address of it. We went there only to be told that they had no records from the period my father was there and the likeliest reason he would have been there was either homelessness, drug addiction or alcoholism. He moved to an address from the hostel in Newton Road but when we went to look for it a pen office block had been built on the spot he had moved to. It was only a week after he moved from the hostel to Newton Road that he was found unconscious at the back of an 'hotel' in Auckland after the bar in the hotel had closed and the landlord called the police and ambulance as he had a head wound. I got this information after receiving the coroner's report from Wellington. He was taken to Auckland public hospital where he died a few days later death being recorded on his death certificate as from an 'intra cerebral haemorrhage'. This is often associated with alcoholism as I learnt later.
I remember that evidence given by his former boss at the telecommunication place of work was that he had terminated his employment due to his increasingly erratic behaviour- again probably alcohol related.
The name of the boss was on the coroner's report and at that time googled it to see if I could find where he lived in Auckland area. I found someone that had his name and emailed him but never had a reply. i did post his name in 2009 and got some responses but they came to nothing but I assume by now he could be no longer around.
Having just got more information on is second wife when we were staying in the vicinity of the address on the marriage certificate I now need to epresume the search on his 3 rd wife as the information you have given has surprised me and I need to check it out. Thanks so much once again. Will let you know if I do get more information. Quite exciting news this!😁🤞🤙

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Re: What happened to Ivor HOPWOOD who died in Australia
« Reply #47 on: Tuesday 19 October 21 15:56 BST (UK) »
Hi maxidog

Thanks for that very-well ordered summary - well done.   ;)   
It is most helpful to have it in that format, saves an awful lot of searching back through the threads.

Yes, please keep us informed of any progress you make.

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Re: What happened to Ivor HOPWOOD who died in Australia
« Reply #48 on: Tuesday 19 October 21 17:10 BST (UK) »
Following up your information about his 3rd wife and trying to retrieve any information I got back in 2009. I have found  birth records and got a name that I am following up. Not sure how I feel about this information after all these years -excited,  but apprehensive after the reception I got from my father's remaining sibling in 2009 whe I discovered her and all his nephews and nieces. I am going ahead with it nevertheless.🤞

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Re: What happened to Ivor HOPWOOD who died in Australia
« Reply #49 on: Wednesday 20 October 21 12:43 BST (UK) »
Have been trying to fully assimilate the information you found for me particularly that he came to New Zealand via Australia. I thought this must have been the case but didn't know how to get that information unless I spent months going to sailing records. It didn't cross my mind that he left by plane as most Brits used the 10 Pom means of getting there. I note that it says an 'extract' above the information about his arrival via Brunei(? ) and Singapore. How can I be find that information,  please?

I am on a very steep learning curve in this research lark and have still got to get to grips with 'links' etc.
Incidentally, I have requested to become a member of a FB group to seek more information about Margaret Brown and any relations but I haven't been accepted yet. I found the name of someone who more than likely could be a half sister to me but have not been able to progress any further for more information about her. I should probably send for the birth certificate to confirm my suspicions but then not sure what to do as looking for her possible marriage so many names come up. Will persevere however, now you have set the ball to roll.

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Re: What happened to Ivor HOPWOOD who died in Australia
« Reply #50 on: Wednesday 20 October 21 20:51 BST (UK) »
Hi maxidog

Some good news for you !   ;D       

Below is the link to the actual arrival record for Ivor HOPWOOD - complete with his signature.

I hadn't had a chance to look further until this morning, but now find this record is in the public domain, freely available for viewing from the NAA (National Archives of Australia) website.

https://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/SearchNRetrieve/Interface/ViewImage.aspx?B=12604027&S=651

[Note :   Sometimes I've found the links to these records "time out"  (a security feature I think,  causes that).   If that should happen and you can't access, let me know, ]

I'll answer your questions shortly,  in a following post.

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Re: What happened to Ivor HOPWOOD who died in Australia
« Reply #51 on: Wednesday 20 October 21 22:39 BST (UK) »
Brilliant. I am hardly doing anything else at the moment except googling, RootsChatting, Free BMD etc. You got me going😁🤙

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Re: What happened to Ivor HOPWOOD who died in Australia
« Reply #52 on: Thursday 21 October 21 01:02 BST (UK) »
Just on my way out so will get back to this later today.

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Re: What happened to Ivor HOPWOOD who died in Australia
« Reply #53 on: Thursday 21 October 21 08:49 BST (UK) »
Hi Maxidog

In relation to the Australian post office employment: post office and telephones used to be one organisation called Postmaster Generals Dept (PMG) until some time in the 2nd half of the 1970s. It was split in two parts: Australia Post and Telecom Australia. Telecom Australia eventually became Telstra and became privatised.

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