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Re: HARDING brickwall - breakthough appreciated
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 26 August 09 12:42 BST (UK) »
1871

RG10/2440 Folio 81 Page 3
Montgomery House, Lamyat, Somerset

Sarah Harding 91 Annuitant Landowner Somerset Milton Blind
Laurence G nephew 61 Income derivable from interest of money .... Somerset Bruton
Elizabeth Ann Oram 64 General Servant Domestic Frome
Elizabeth Plowman 39 Cook and Domestic Somerset Cole

An interesting census entry, gives you another relative anyway  :)

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Cat
Dunning/Downing, Osborn/e, Astley -Cheshire/Birmingham/Middlesex
Fanthorpe/Hall/Driffill/Storm - Lincolnshire
Bower/Woodward/Bingham/Pettinger/Shaw - Nottinghamshire
Shaw, Marland - Lancashire
Broph(e)y - Queens County, Ireland
Richards - Neath Swansea
Hunt/Fox - Lincs, Waterfield/Middleton - Staffs
Hart/Harland/Askew/Scales - Yorkshire
Brereton/Vickers - Cheshire
Gleaves/Sandford/Hulse/Hulme - Wolstanton/Audley Staffs
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Re: HARDING brickwall - breakthough appreciated
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 26 August 09 12:46 BST (UK) »
In 1851, Laurence is at Northampton Place, Islington, Middlesex, hes a Schoolmaster, living with a housekeeper, 2 servants and 5 schoolboys. Two of the schoolboys, Henry Harding 15 and Thos Alexander 11 are listed as cousins

HO107/1502 Folio 524 Page 29
Dunning/Downing, Osborn/e, Astley -Cheshire/Birmingham/Middlesex
Fanthorpe/Hall/Driffill/Storm - Lincolnshire
Bower/Woodward/Bingham/Pettinger/Shaw - Nottinghamshire
Shaw, Marland - Lancashire
Broph(e)y - Queens County, Ireland
Richards - Neath Swansea
Hunt/Fox - Lincs, Waterfield/Middleton - Staffs
Hart/Harland/Askew/Scales - Yorkshire
Brereton/Vickers - Cheshire
Gleaves/Sandford/Hulse/Hulme - Wolstanton/Audley Staffs
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov

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Re: HARDING brickwall - breakthough appreciated
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 26 August 09 13:02 BST (UK) »
This really is a surprise packet.  I wonder if Lawrence George HARDING could have been a son of James HARDING from Bruton who, I suspect, is yet another brother of Sarah.

I don't think the Bruton records have been transcribed yet, but I wonder if he was living with any other relatives in 1841?  In 1881, he is on his own with just a couple of servants, obviously quite comfortably off.

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Phil

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« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 26 August 09 13:11 BST (UK) »
I checked 1841 to see if I could find him with any family but unfortunately hes in Brightelmstone, St Peter, Sussex, a tutor, age 30, N, in a school at Gloucester Place, with about 20 children and quite a few tutors and servants

HO107/1121/10 Folio 50 Page 34

Regards
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Dunning/Downing, Osborn/e, Astley -Cheshire/Birmingham/Middlesex
Fanthorpe/Hall/Driffill/Storm - Lincolnshire
Bower/Woodward/Bingham/Pettinger/Shaw - Nottinghamshire
Shaw, Marland - Lancashire
Broph(e)y - Queens County, Ireland
Richards - Neath Swansea
Hunt/Fox - Lincs, Waterfield/Middleton - Staffs
Hart/Harland/Askew/Scales - Yorkshire
Brereton/Vickers - Cheshire
Gleaves/Sandford/Hulse/Hulme - Wolstanton/Audley Staffs
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov


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Re: HARDING brickwall - breakthough appreciated
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 26 August 09 13:22 BST (UK) »
Do you know who his cousins are from 1851 census - Henry Harding and Thos Alexander?

Thomas seems to be the son of a John (40) and Elizabeth Alexander (32) in 1841 census. In 1851 John is a widower, Druggist and Grocer in Glastonbury, but I notice he has an assistant Robert? Welch age 30. Don't know where these fit in though  :-\
Dunning/Downing, Osborn/e, Astley -Cheshire/Birmingham/Middlesex
Fanthorpe/Hall/Driffill/Storm - Lincolnshire
Bower/Woodward/Bingham/Pettinger/Shaw - Nottinghamshire
Shaw, Marland - Lancashire
Broph(e)y - Queens County, Ireland
Richards - Neath Swansea
Hunt/Fox - Lincs, Waterfield/Middleton - Staffs
Hart/Harland/Askew/Scales - Yorkshire
Brereton/Vickers - Cheshire
Gleaves/Sandford/Hulse/Hulme - Wolstanton/Audley Staffs
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov

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Re: HARDING brickwall - breakthough appreciated
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 26 August 09 13:23 BST (UK) »
Thanks anyway Cat. This has given me a new lease of life on this particular line, and a strong lead about a connection in Bruton to follow up.

Kind regards and thanks

Phil

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Re: HARDING brickwall - breakthough appreciated
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 26 August 09 13:32 BST (UK) »
Do you know who his cousins are from 1851 census - Henry Harding and Thos Alexander?

Thomas seems to be the son of a John (40) and Elizabeth Alexander (32) in 1841 census. In 1851 John is a widower, Druggist and Grocer in Glastonbury, but I notice he has an assistant Robert? Welch age 30. Don't know where these fit in though  :-\

The WELCHes could really give you a headache.

James HARDING (ca 1740-1816) married Elizabeth WELCH in 1763, and had eleven children.  His sister Mary married William WELCH in 1763, but I haven't been able to trace their children.

In addition, an Ann WELCH, born about 1781, married George HARDING who was a nephew of James. It is quite likely, I would think, that Ann WELCH was his cousin.

So all in all, the link with the ALEXANDER and WELCH families is likely to be quite strong, but I don't know how to go about proving the relationship ;)

Phil


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Re: HARDING brickwall - breakthough appreciated
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 26 August 09 16:30 BST (UK) »
Sorry to butt in on your research but I am interested in any George Harding's born Somerset around
1770/80. Have you any info on the George Harding married to Ann Welch please? Although I know the George Harding my 3 Grt. Grandfather marr. Joan Holly 1803 at Moorlinch. I am unable to find birthplace of George owing to being only on 1841 Census. Birthplace Somerset.George died 1845. Any info. to make breakthrough would be fantastic as this line has ended without birthplace. I have had  a questionable entry of  "status" on Marr.Cert. so follow up any mention of George Harding of Somerset. I also have a Harding connection to Welch family but that is later 1907 - Wilts.
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Re: HARDING brickwall - breakthough appreciated
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 26 August 09 19:01 BST (UK) »
Sorry, Have checked my research and found that your George Harding married Ann Welch 13th Feb.1809 at Kelston so have already checked out this George.  Brick wall still stands. Regards Syljun