Hi all,sorry iv not been on here for abit.Iv kinda run out of steam on the Sherriff tree at the moment so been havin a break from it.
Garen,i think it was my uncle that got in touch with you (my auntys husband Roger).You have a great website,my trees on ancestory.Great newspaper clippings,i wouldnt even know where to start.Any tips would be greatly apprechiated!!!
Julie,in the Sherriff family many of the people named there kids after their siblings,so you will find there are probaly quite afew Abrahams etc.Its just trial and error in finding the right one.As Garen said,they changed names & intermarried,anyone older was called uncle & anyone the same age was brother or sister.Also sometimes they were born in one place but not registered until in another place or sometimes the births were registered in several districts.The Romanys of yonder deffinatly didnt make it easy for us to find them etc,lol!!!
I just wish my grandad was still alive to ask.
Shaz xxx
On page three of this thread above Roger is talked about well Roger managers Susan's Ancestry page and Susan is your Aunt, dna is not talked about in this day like a family tree but before the internet i listened to people talk about the black blood, this you had to have if you was from the Romany Gipsy's, you had to have this regardless of family or lifestile, you had to be of the black blood no matter what big or small, to me this is the true meaning of what people have been talking about, its all there in the dna clusters, it is not like them old tree rings that people search out for answers about how old a tree is its not like when the scientists crush up bones and date the dust of the dead, the dna in people living will tell you if the dead are alive in you in this day, its not like the halogroups that people looks for that tell of far of placers, the black blood gets past down through generations and is kept alive as long as it is alive, if you know you know if its in you its in you, when its gone its gone, by looking for cracks in science people may fool evan themselves into thinking they open an hidden door that lets them rejoin, i do not think that this is the black blood,
the black blood is what the old Gipsy's would talk about, someone once said that the Romany in this day know who is who for they themselves would know all the old names connected to the Gipsy's through family ties that others would not know, this is how they new who was who and who had the black blood in them now in this day the dna that is within all the Gipsy descendants in this day shows them who are the people who are left from the ancient peoples, its living dna not dead crushed bones or tree rings or long gone country's, the black blood is the living dna not the dead dna, the black blood doesn't mutate it is just passed down this is the only true line of the Romany Gipsy's, it may come from your Aunt, your Uncle, your great Gran or Grandad, it will be there if its there, no Gipsy alive or dead would ever say different, it as nothing to do with being a male or female, theres no mutations no secrete line to be uncovered there is no chalice there is only whats in you, when it runs out its out and gone, if its still in you just recognise it for what it is, you may not be of the Gipsy's in this day but know as true that the dead still live in you in this day for if you still carry what was given you are truly descended from them, my Mother said to me never michael to be afraid of the dead if they come to you just be having the talk to them, never be afraid just talk to them right, well this talk i just have had is the right true talk and I'm not afraid of the dead.
michael Leahcim...... this is my Ancestry name
I just wanted to show you this, well i am a far Cousin to this lady below named Lorraine her grand mother was Ellen Sheriff 19021982
who comes out of Thomas Holland there does not seam to be any more information that Lorraine knows, i think she is from the Gipsy's though for me and Lorraine both share dna with 12 people and each and every one of those 12 are ritch in Gipsy history we share no history through dna with no other peoples, these are the 12 below
Stanley Young Smith Seed Jeffery two Lovell's Hodgkin's Davidson Deese Boswell a Weddell who father was a Lovell and who as these ancestors in his tree
Duke Lee
1785
Union Lee
17971880
Duanna (Diana) Lee
1785
Elisha 'Rightdoer' Lee
1710
Elisha 'Rightdoer' Lee1737
Letitia Lee
17651802
Manfield Lee
17651835
so you see evan when someone as a name like Weddell that may not be known by anyone yet when you look into their dna as a family in dna you then start to learn, me and Weddell then go on to share 27 people who we both match to and each and every one of those 27 are from the Gipsy's, i have 17 thousand dna matches thoughout the world i have still not looked at thousands of these matches but so far i have over seven hundred people from the old Gipsy's worldwide who match through dna with me, over 20 now are from the Romany Gipsy of Europe, how i match to them is a mystery for they hold no British way dna as in ethnicity yet we share far ancestry in dna as dna.