Chaloner family

[Lairdglyn]

Shep,

Until I have evidence to the contrary I will stick with Thomas and Mary but as Holt seems to be involved with a number of the Chaloners, when I get the time I want to try to check the Parish Registers.

Some time ago it was suggested to me that the Challinor name originated in Challons Sur Marne where cloth makers known as Shalooners worked and the Challons Sur Marne Webb Sire does indeed make reference to the Denbigh Challinors.

Glyn

[linda25g]

I'm hoping Linda25g can help on this one but the question is aimed at all the Chaloner descendants / ancestors who hark back to Thomas Chalenor (b1780 Holt - d1825 Mancott). I think we all agree he married an Ann Thomas, however my question concerns his parents.

Some have Thomas's parents as Thomas (1751 - 1827) with Elizabeth Beech. However, I went with Charles Chalenor & Mary based on the baptism in Holt on 25 Dec 1780 rather than the 1782 baptism.
Does anyone have any conclusive evidence as to which is correct?

thanks Shep.

Thomas Chaloner who married Ann Thomas was baptised 23 June 1782 in Isycoed, his parents were Thomas Chaloner (1751 - 1827) his wife was actually an Elizabeth Peck (1753 - 1817)

Thomas Chaloner bap 25 Dec 1780 in Holt was the son of Charles Chaloner and Mary Matthews, he married Elizabeth Hughes in 1806 and then Elizabeth Ellis in 1824, he died 2nd Mar 1853

[linda25g]

Thanks Linda,

Was Timothy's son John Chaloner born and died and married to Margarett Williams, if so, he is the Holt John Chalenor my ancestor and My Holt information about Timothy was incorrect. If so then do you have any other information about the Timothy who married Anne Wilme?

yes Timothy's son was John who married Margaret in Holt. I believe this is the Timothy baptised in Huyton 1666 to William, however I'm still looking for proof.

I have gone further back with Ann Wilme, her grandfather Charles Farrington was buried in Chester Cathedral in 1666 and the brass plaque is still there on the floor of one of the chapels

[Lairdglyn]

Linda, are you saying that there are two Thomas Chalenors?

one baptised at Isycoed in June 1782
whose Father was Thomas Chalenor 1751-1827
and Mother was Elizabeth Peck 1753-1817

the other baptised in Holt in December 1780
and later married Elizabeth Hughes in 1806 then Elizabeth Ellis in 1824
whose father was Charles Chalenor and mother Mary Matthews

I have Thomas Chalenor 1780-1825 married to Ann Thomas 1776-?
Son William born Dec 16 1807 at Mancott, baptised Jan 24 1808, married Ann Lewis at Hawarden 26 May 1828
His father was Charles Chalenor 1745-? married to Mary Matthews 1748-1807 Charles being the Great Grandson of Timothy Chalenr 1666-??? and Ann Wilme 1677-1731

It is a pity we cannot shoe extracts from our trees via this forum which would make comparison much easier
died Gt Boughton 1852

[Lairdglyn]

Although I do not have evidence I tend to think that TIMOTHY CHALLENOR 1667-??? and ANNE WILME 1677-1731 are the parents of JOHN CHALENOR 1695-1766 who married MARGARET WILLIAMS 1695-1742.    This would appear to complete the chain from Jacob Chalenor 1586-1631  to a William Chaloner to John Chalenor 1640-1695 and thus to Timothy but again I am short of evidence

[Lairdglyn]

To Izzybella and excookie
I have Charles Challinor married to Mary Matthews whose father was Charles (1718-17590 his father was John 1695-1766) and his father Timothy (1667-???)
Many of my Challinor Ancestors came from the CHester area, including The Lache but no Clifford.
This is a good site but I find it very difficult to keep up with all posts. It is so much easier by direct email where you can attach copies of family trees etc I would like to give folks who I can help my Email adddress but I don't think Roots allow that.

[sarah]

it is not safe to publically type your email address as this is how spammer pick up on your email, the safe way is by pm.

Images such as family trees can be "attached" to posts by clicking the attach button that appears below the box you type in.

Regards

Sarah

[Lairdglyn]

Thank you Sarah

[linda25g]

Linda, are you saying that there are two Thomas Chalenors?

one baptised at Isycoed in June 1782
whose Father was Thomas Chalenor 1751-1827
and Mother was Elizabeth Peck 1753-1817

the other baptised in Holt in December 1780
and later married Elizabeth Hughes in 1806 then Elizabeth Ellis in 1824
whose father was Charles Chalenor and mother Mary Matthews

I have Thomas Chalenor 1780-1825 married to Ann Thomas 1776-?
Son William born Dec 16 1807 at Mancott, baptised Jan 24 1808, married Ann Lewis at Hawarden 26 May 1828
His father was Charles Chalenor 1745-? married to Mary Matthews 1748-1807 Charles being the Great Grandson of Timothy Chalenr 1666-??? and Ann Wilme 1677-1731

It is a pity we cannot shoe extracts from our trees via this forum which would make comparison much easier
died Gt Boughton 1852

Sorry to be so long replying to this and hopefully you will see it, the Thomas Chaloner who married Ann Thomas was the son of Thomas Chalenor 1751-1827 and Elizabeth Peck 1753-1817

Thomas son of Charles and Mary married Elizabeth Hughes and then Elizabeth Ellis