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1841/51 Census Lookup Please - CRUMP - Barnet
« on: Saturday 05 September 09 19:33 BST (UK) »
Looking for a famly entry of one Martha Harriet Crump, born around 1829, in East Barnet. Believe parents may be John Crump and Maria. Hoping still living at home in 1841 or 51

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Re: Crump family E Barnet 1841/51
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 05 September 09 19:54 BST (UK) »
Hi Jeremy,

Found an Index entry for a CRUMP family 1841 reference HO107/699/2 F.48 P.18. John Street, South Hackney.
John 30, Maria 30, Martha 12, Georgana 10, John 3 and Louisa 3m.   
The actual record is virtually unreadable.

Is this your  family?.
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Re: Crump family E Barnet 1841/51
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 05 September 09 20:02 BST (UK) »
Peter
Thanks for suc a quick reply. Looks like a likely candidate. I am following this p for a friend, all I had to go on originally was a Martha, born E Barnet as a wife of a Thomas Goldsmith. Got the Crump name from free BMD Martha as daughter of John and Maria from IGI.
With the Hackney family just need to tie it back to E Barnet. Maybe through the 1851?

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Re: Crump family E Barnet 1841/51
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 05 September 09 23:13 BST (UK) »
Hi Jeremy,

The 1851 records John and Maria at 22 West Street, Bethnal Green.

John 48 Butcher bn.Middlesex
Maria 47                  Cambridgeshire
John  12                   Middlesex
Louisa  10                Middlesex.

No trace of Martha but there is a marriage for a Martha CRUMP in the St.Pancras District Dec quarter 1847 Vol.1/315.

Hope this helps.

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Re: Crump family E Barnet 1841/51
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 06 September 09 10:58 BST (UK) »
Hi Jeremy,

The 1871 records Thomas and Martha GOLDSMITH and 5 children at 13 West Street, Bethnal Green.  At 22 West Street is John CRUMP 70 widower Butcher and his grandaughter Matha GOLDSMITH age 10.

Have we made the right connection?.

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Re: Crump family E Barnet 1841/51
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 06 September 09 13:50 BST (UK) »
Peter
That's great and seems to confirm we have the right Crump family here. I started out with trying to trace Martha - the wife of Thomas Goldsmith.

What place of birth is given for John Crump in 1871, hoping it is more precise than Middlesex.

Thank you again.

Jeremy

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Re: Crump family E Barnet 1841/51
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 06 September 09 15:08 BST (UK) »
Jeremy,

The 1871 gives John Crump's place of birth as SOMERS TOWN.

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Re: 1841/51 Census Lookup Please - CRUMP - Barnet
« Reply #7 on: Monday 28 September 09 14:47 BST (UK) »
Hi Jeremy,

Found the following item in the East Barnet Parish Records   ...   
Born 02 March  bap.29 March 1829 Martha Harriet d/o John and Maria CRUMP of East Barnet, Butcher. 

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Re: 1841/51 Census Lookup Please - CRUMP - Barnet
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 19 February 12 09:48 GMT (UK) »

i am from aust. looking for my great grand parents My grandfather was James Crump 1829 on his marriage cert and his death his father was John Crump, butcher From Bethnal green i have a John Crump and Maria Styles but cannot find connection, In the 1851 cesus he was living with his Uncle James Crump.
He married Louisa Martin in 1853 left for Aust 1854 after his son was born James Harry crump.
Can you help with this problem
Jazz1