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Burt/Stabler
« on: Monday 14 September 09 05:35 BST (UK) »
I am "trying" to piece together my own family history.Sadly I havn't visited the North East since my father died in 1972.

My father was Charles Stabler born in Cullercoats/WhitleyBay 1907 to Charles Stabler b1877 (Bishop Aulkand) and Mary Annie Burt b 1882/3 on Rocky Island Seaton Sluice.

I am ,at present, concentrating on my grandmothers family.She was born to parents William Burt & Emily Burt (Holroyd) and had , as far as I can trace, 4 sisters Elizabeth b1884 Emily b1891, Margeret b 1895 and Florence b 1897. i can remember my Aunt Florence (known as Florrie) as a young lad in the 60's. She passed away in 1977.

I would be interested to hear from anyone else who is from this line and is/has also researched the history

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Re: Burt/Stabler
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 01 December 18 23:30 GMT (UK) »
Hello,

Not sure this will reach you ten years later, but I'll give it a go regardless... I am also researching the Burt family from Guernsey. My great grandmother was Florence Ada Burt born in Guernsey in 1883. She married William John Abrahams and they had my grandmother Bertha Abrahams in 1902, along with Gertie 1906, and Gladys 1908. I have Florence's father listed as Joseph Burt but I am not sure if that is correct. I'm an American from NY, living in California. My grandmother came to NY from Cornwall when she was 16, in search of her mother - Florence Ada Burt - who had abandoned her 3 daughters in England after her husband gambled all of her money away and left them with nothing. Florence took a ship to New York and married a well-to-do doctor. She was not thrilled to see my grandmother at her door but offered her a position as a servant. That's all I know. I'd love to learn more about the Burt branch.

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Re: Burt/Stabler
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 02 December 18 01:09 GMT (UK) »
Here is the marriage:

Dec 1900 Redruth 5c 417
ABRAHAM William John
BURT Florence Ada

ABRAHAMS, BERTHA  FLORENCE mmn BURT
GRO Reference: 1902  J Quarter in PLYMOUTH  Volume 05B  Page 195

ABRAHAMS, EDITH  MAY mmn BURT
GRO Reference: 1903  M Quarter in PLYMOUTH  Volume 05B  Page 237 195 (possible death Newton Abbot 1903)

ABRAHAMS, LILIAN  MAUD MATILDA mmn BURT
GRO Reference: 1904  M Quarter in BARNSTAPLE  Volume 05B  Page 408
 
ABRAHAMS, EMILY  GERTRUDE mmn BURT
GRO Reference: 1906  J Quarter in CARDIFF  Volume 11A  Page 447

ABRAHAMS, GLADYS  MAY mmn BURT
GRO Reference: 1907  D Quarter in BRIDGEND  Volume 11A  Page 901

The children with grandparents in 1911: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X7LB-6WW

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Re: Burt/Stabler
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 02 December 18 01:19 GMT (UK) »
Florence Ada with folks on the 1891 census:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:4BC1-M6Z

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Atkinson; Badier; Cameron; Grant; Howie; Jardine; Jenkins; Kerr; Lawardorn; Lee; Linton; Lonie; McConnell; Morgan; Morrison; Murphy; O'Leary; Paton; Pratt; Robb; Williams


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Re: Burt/Stabler
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 02 December 18 01:36 GMT (UK) »
Wonderful! Thanks Jamjar, very helpful!

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Re: Burt/Stabler
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 02 December 18 01:55 GMT (UK) »
I forgot to say welcome to Rootschat.  ;D

Possible birth for Joseph:

BURT, JOSEPH mmn WEBBER
GRO Reference: 1859  M Quarter in WAREHAM & PURBECK  Volume 05A  Page 307

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:26RM-RCP

Possible marriage of folks:

Dec 1851 Wareham 8 237
BURT John       
WEBBER Elizabeth Tomes

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X8HX-5BP

Siblings:

BURT, NAT  WEBBER mmn WEBBER
GRO Reference: 1852  J Quarter in WAREHAM & PURBECK  Volume 05A  Page 301

BURT, SARAH  ANN mmn WEBBER
GRO Reference: 1853  D Quarter in WAREHAM & PURBECK  Volume 05A  Page 256

BURT, MATILDA mmn WEBBER
GRO Reference: 1856  D Quarter in WAREHAM & TURBECK  Volume 05A  Page 277

On the 1861 census. Father is a stone cutter, no mother:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7L8-GMT

Possible death of Elizabeth:

Jun 1859 WAREHAM 5A 216
BURT Elizabeth

John the Islands by 1871, remarried by the looks:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KDDP-BJN
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KDDP-BJK

Joseph with wife Sarah in 1881: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q2WS-5B3S

John Burt and wife in 1881: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q2WS-R4B6

Sarah is remarried by 1901 and in Cornwall:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XSHX-KM7

Birth of the child to 2nd husband, confirms maiden name:

BARTLETT, ELSIE  MAY mmn REYNOLDS
GRO Reference: 1899  D Quarter in REDRUTH  Volume 05C  Page 185

Explains how Florence came to be back in England, I think.

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Re: Burt/Stabler
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 02 December 18 09:28 GMT (UK) »
https://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/NBL/DeathNotices/deaths_BURR

SilentForce, I wonder if any of the 'Burts' on this death notice link may be of relevance to you.

There is also one named 'Stabler'.

https://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/NBL/DeathNotices/deaths_SPOT
Conroy, Fitzpatrick, Watson, Miller, Davis/Davies, Brown, Senior, Dodds, Grieveson, Gamesby, Simpson, Rose, Gilboy, Malloy, Dalton, Young, Saint, Anderson, Allen, McKetterick, McCabe, Drummond, Parkinson, Armstrong, McCarroll, Innes, Marshall, Atkinson, Glendinning, Fenwick, Bonner

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Re: Burt/Stabler
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 02 December 18 10:40 GMT (UK) »
MARRIAGE;

8 Dec 1900, Treleigh, Conwall
Florence Ada BURT age 16, Spinster, Residence Treleigh, Father JOSEPH a Stone Mason
William John ABRAHAMS, age 23, Bachelor, French Polisher, Residence Redruth, Father HENRY a Mason

Source CornwallOPC.

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Re: Burt/Stabler
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 02 December 18 10:56 GMT (UK) »
Not sure if you know but Edith Annie (Florence Adas Sister) ended up in Canada also;


Ontario Deaths and Overseas Deaths, 1939-1947
Name Edith Annie PULSFORD
18 Aug 1930
Hamilton, Wentworth, Ontario, Canada
Gender Female
Age   47
Birth Date   24 Feb 1883
Birthplace   Guernsey Island
Father's Name   Joseph Burt***
Mother's Name   Sarah Reynolds***

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