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1841 census -foreign parts
« on: Sunday 20 September 09 14:40 BST (UK) »
I found a possible name in the 1841 census, but the p.o.b. was Foreign parts. Not very remarkable, but everybody else on the page were foreign parts too. The location was a hotel in Ross on Wye, Herefordshire.

Ref F4 R11 20

What was the meaning of foreign parts? I presume another country, but why so many in one place?

Mike

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Re: 1841 census -foreign parts
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 20 September 09 14:54 BST (UK) »
Just to say that this is an example of a reference for the 1841 Census

HO107; Piece 196; Book: 13;Folio: 18; Page: 30;


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Re: 1841 census -foreign parts
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 20 September 09 14:55 BST (UK) »
any occupations shown?

are you sure its not just the enumeration using that column as a scratchpad / counting aid - seen that before !

As Stan M implies, if you give us a propere refn, or a name, might be able to comment further?  ;)
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Re: 1841 census -foreign parts
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 20 September 09 15:00 BST (UK) »
The column has whether born in Scotland, Ireland, or Foreign Parts, to be shown as  'S' 'I' or 'F'. Was everyone else shown as F ?

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Re: 1841 census -foreign parts
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 20 September 09 15:54 BST (UK) »
HO 107/421/17

Occupations are not included in 1841 census

The word Foreign is written in full.

The spesific person is not important and may not be a reli. But Foreign for so many looked odd.
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Re: 1841 census -foreign parts
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 20 September 09 17:11 BST (UK) »
HO 107/421/17

Occupations are not included in 1841 census


It should be HO107 Piece; Book:; Folio:; Page:;

Yes they are  :) the column is headed
PROFESSION, TRADE,
    EMPLOYMENT
          or of
INDEPENDENT MEANS


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Re: 1841 census -foreign parts
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 20 September 09 17:26 BST (UK) »
Try HO 107 / 412 / Book 17 / Folio 6 / Page 19

I think most of them are born out of county, not in foreign parts. Most of them have 'N' written against their names in the 'whether born in the same county' column. So far as I can see only four are foreign. The enumerator has (rather confusingly) used what looks like a ditto mark to indicate no entry.

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Re: 1841 census -foreign parts
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 20 September 09 17:36 BST (UK) »
For instance, here there are three foreign, one Scotland and the rest born out of county.


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Re: 1841 census -foreign parts
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 20 September 09 17:51 BST (UK) »
THe enumerator appears to have used " to indicate that they were not born in Scotland, Ireland, or Foreign Parts, as every page has this except where, contrary to instructions, he has written "foreign". In the extract you show he has written do for the second person where the two people are Foreign. The transcribers for ancestry have interpreted " as meaning ditto when it does not. As Jennifer has pointed out in the column headed "Whether born in same County" they nearly all have Y for Yes

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