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Anyone recognise this house????
« on: Sunday 20 September 09 15:05 BST (UK) »
This photo was in the Welsh photo album I recently was successful in obtaining  via Ebay.  It belonged to my grandmother's cousin Jane (Jennie) Blodwen Williams.

It is possibly Rhianfa, Carmel, her family home,  or Llystwrog, Upper Llandwrog, home of  Rev. Stanley Hadyn Williams.

Does anyone recognise this house?



Williams - Llanllyfni Llandwrog Llanrug Bedd Austr.
Jones - Beddgelert/Nantlle
Parry - Llanllyfni
Owen s - Beddgelert
Pierce - Llanrug
Jarvis/Jervis - Llanrug
Roberts - Llanddeiniolen
Griffith  - Beddgellert/LLanrug


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« Reply #1 on: Sunday 20 September 09 15:17 BST (UK) »
Hello big g,

There is an estate agent's advertisement on the web for Rhianfa, Carmel and the photo makes it clear that it is not the same house as in your photo.

http://www.jamesproperties.co.uk/rhianfainfo.pdf

Have you established where Jane Williams was in the census returns for the period? Can you give an idea of the year the photo was taken? I would age the house as late Victorian but I am not an expert in this field. 

Jo




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« Reply #2 on: Sunday 20 September 09 16:07 BST (UK) »
Hi Jo,

Thanks for the link; I now know what Rhianfa looks like!!!!!

Jane Blodwen Williams born 1897 Caernarvon,
1901 census living Cae Goronwy, Llandwrog with her parents, Robert Parry and Sydney Williams,  and sister, Ellen Maud.
1906 her father dies at Rhianfa, Carmel.
1911 census, she is at Rhianfa with her mother and sister.
1917 she dies Hyde Fever Hospital, she was a probabationary nurse.
1940 her mother dies at  Celtic, Sergontium Rd South, Caernarvon.

Glenys
Williams - Llanllyfni Llandwrog Llanrug Bedd Austr.
Jones - Beddgelert/Nantlle
Parry - Llanllyfni
Owen s - Beddgelert
Pierce - Llanrug
Jarvis/Jervis - Llanrug
Roberts - Llanddeiniolen
Griffith  - Beddgellert/LLanrug


"This information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk"

Corrin - I.o.M./Bootle/K'dale/Seaforth
Stewart - Durham L'pool
Whitford -I o M L'pool
Atkinson - Bootle K'dale
Crookham - Formby Crosby L'pool

Lloyd Dickinson Burgess Threlfall Tarbuck - Lancs

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« Reply #3 on: Monday 21 September 09 18:18 BST (UK) »
Hello big g,

I wonder about Cae Goronwy but have no definite knowledge that it is this.

An idea might be to post the photo on the Roots Chat Photograph Board and ask someone to date it. Not easy with a house but the style and colour of the photo might be enough for the expert eyes.

Jo


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« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 22 September 09 15:33 BST (UK) »
Thanks Jo,

Wll do as you suggest.

Glenys
Williams - Llanllyfni Llandwrog Llanrug Bedd Austr.
Jones - Beddgelert/Nantlle
Parry - Llanllyfni
Owen s - Beddgelert
Pierce - Llanrug
Jarvis/Jervis - Llanrug
Roberts - Llanddeiniolen
Griffith  - Beddgellert/LLanrug


"This information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk"

Corrin - I.o.M./Bootle/K'dale/Seaforth
Stewart - Durham L'pool
Whitford -I o M L'pool
Atkinson - Bootle K'dale
Crookham - Formby Crosby L'pool

Lloyd Dickinson Burgess Threlfall Tarbuck - Lancs

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Re: Anyone recognise this house????
« Reply #5 on: Monday 23 November 09 17:01 GMT (UK) »
Hi
I live within about  one and a half miles of Rhianfa, Cae Goronwy and Llys Twrog. Had a look at all 3 properties yesterday. You already know it's not Rhianfa; and does not appear to be one of the other two either. Weather wasn't very good, so I only had a look at these two properties from a couple of fields away; I'll have another look when we get some decent weather. I've given a copy of the picture to someone to pass on to a friend who has lived all his life in the area and has written a book about the homesteads in the area, to see if he recognises it. He should get it this evening.
Emyr
 

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« Reply #6 on: Thursday 26 November 09 14:54 GMT (UK) »
Emyrborth,
Apologies for not replying sooner - I have been away for a couple of days.

Thanks for taking an interest; I do appreciate any help that kind folk such as yourself offer!


Glenys
Williams - Llanllyfni Llandwrog Llanrug Bedd Austr.
Jones - Beddgelert/Nantlle
Parry - Llanllyfni
Owen s - Beddgelert
Pierce - Llanrug
Jarvis/Jervis - Llanrug
Roberts - Llanddeiniolen
Griffith  - Beddgellert/LLanrug


"This information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk"

Corrin - I.o.M./Bootle/K'dale/Seaforth
Stewart - Durham L'pool
Whitford -I o M L'pool
Atkinson - Bootle K'dale
Crookham - Formby Crosby L'pool

Lloyd Dickinson Burgess Threlfall Tarbuck - Lancs

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« Reply #7 on: Sunday 29 November 09 23:07 GMT (UK) »
Hi
Can now confirm picture is not of Cae Goronwy or Llys Twrog. Have not heard from my friend, but now realise that he would have been busy last few days. Have also checked out Meillionydd which you mention in another posting. There have been so many alterations/additions to this property it's difficult to work out what it originally looked like, but am pretty certain it's not the property in the picture.
On the positive side I've found an article in the On-line edition of the Dictionary of Welsh Biography, about the brother of Rev Stanley Haydn Williams, William Ewart Williams. I've had a problem creating a link to the website, but if you put "william ewart Williams" into a search engine, you'll find the website, National Library of Wales :: Dictionary of Welsh Biography. Click on 'W', then scroll down to 'Williams, William Ewart', you'll find that he was a distinguished scientist involved in the American missile program. It mentions his brother Rev Stanley, and another brother Robert Arthur Williams of Sydney, Australia. There is also information on the parents and of the family grave.
According to the article, the family home was Bodgarad, Rhostryfan. As I was going thro' Rhostryfan today (Sunday), I decided to have a look at the property. The last few hundred yards is along a rough farm track and I decided not to take my car along it. As it was raining quite heavily I decide to leave visiting it until I get a dry day. Forecast for this area is reasonable for tomorrow afternoon. I have walked past the property a couple of years ago, but don't remember what the property looks like. I'll also have a look at the family grave at Carmel sometime during the week. I only came across the article today; I was jogging/walking within about 100 yards of the cemetry yesterday.
According to the article, Llys Twrog is the Rev Stanley's mother's home.
Emyr
 

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« Reply #8 on: Monday 30 November 09 11:22 GMT (UK) »
Emyrborth,

Thanks so much.

I have seen the item re William Ewart Williams.  I have also visited Meillionydd, upper Llandwrog, and as you say there have been many alterations to this home over the years.

Several years ago I was taken to St.Thomas' graveyard, Groeslon, ( church no longer standing) by a relative from Muriau,  Penygroes, who sadly is no longer with us.

I would be so grateful to know if the house at Rhostryfan is the one in the photo, but please don't go to any trouble of finding it in this awful weather.

I will be away from my computer again until Friday, but hope to be able to access this site from my daughter's laptop !!


Regards,

Glenys
Williams - Llanllyfni Llandwrog Llanrug Bedd Austr.
Jones - Beddgelert/Nantlle
Parry - Llanllyfni
Owen s - Beddgelert
Pierce - Llanrug
Jarvis/Jervis - Llanrug
Roberts - Llanddeiniolen
Griffith  - Beddgellert/LLanrug


"This information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk"

Corrin - I.o.M./Bootle/K'dale/Seaforth
Stewart - Durham L'pool
Whitford -I o M L'pool
Atkinson - Bootle K'dale
Crookham - Formby Crosby L'pool

Lloyd Dickinson Burgess Threlfall Tarbuck - Lancs