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Re: German Pork Butchers in Britain
« Reply #603 on: Monday 06 February 17 10:39 GMT (UK) »
Hello Gill and Histres, Many thanks for your efforts.  I have a little data from Ancestry on 5 Plank family members. They were the offspring of  a George Michael (Friedrich) Plank (1852-1894) and Katharina Margaret Busch (1843-?).

As far as I can determine, in order of age the siblings were:

Maria Margaretha Plank (b 1875 - ?)
Carl Plank (1876-1972)
August Plank (1890-1882)
Georg Plank (1881-1883)
Friedrich Plank (1884-1956)  - my great grandfather.

Carl and Friedrich came to the UK together around 1898 and were Pork Butchers in Sheffield by the 1901 and 1911 censuses. I had always assumed they were farmers prior to arriving in the UK but may well be wrong. Of particular interest to me is what became of the eldest sibling Maria Maria Margaretha and her mother Katherina after the boys left Germany.  I cannot find much at all to go on there.

I have a number of marriage and baptismal records form Ancestry but find the gothic script a little difficult. There are two ladies called Katherina M Busch which complicates things, born in 1843 and 1846 respectively.  I have baptismal records for both (Weikersheim) and also a marriage record for another (Hollenbach)

with very best wishes,

James

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Re: German Pork Butchers in Britain
« Reply #604 on: Monday 06 February 17 11:02 GMT (UK) »
Hello Histres and James

Before opening up my messages again, I found the maiden name of Katharina Plank - Busch.

It looks as though Johann C Plank came over 1890 and his brother in 1898.

On the 1939 Register, Frederick gives his occupation as Journeyman Butcher and Johann (John Charles) was living on independent means both in Sheffield.

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Re: German Pork Butchers in Britain
« Reply #605 on: Monday 06 February 17 11:09 GMT (UK) »
Alright Gill, that corresponds with the datails that James has sent. So my offer to help deciphering is obsolete. Have a nice day in Switzerland. Histres
German pork butchers in Britain and in Ireland

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Re: German Pork Butchers in Britain
« Reply #606 on: Thursday 16 February 17 22:17 GMT (UK) »
I am looking for any informations or descendants from the Gronbach or Grombach butchers.
Grombach Gronbach
Yaag Jaag Jag


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Re: German Pork Butchers in Britain
« Reply #607 on: Thursday 16 February 17 22:19 GMT (UK) »
I am as well looking for any informations or descendants from the Jaag / Yaag / Jag butchers.
Thenks for any reply
Patrick
Grombach Gronbach
Yaag Jaag Jag

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Re: German Pork Butchers in Britain
« Reply #608 on: Thursday 16 February 17 22:29 GMT (UK) »
Good evening PatrickMartin, welcome to the thread. I am sure you will find some people who can help you here. The only thing is that you should perhaps give the forenames of your Grombach/Gronbach forefathers. This is useful as there were quite a number of pork butchers with these names in Britain.
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Histres
 
 
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Re: German Pork Butchers in Britain
« Reply #609 on: Friday 17 February 17 06:27 GMT (UK) »
Thank you for the quick answer.
Yes, I found a lot of Gronbachs and Jaags in the database, even my own ancestors. I do know their own descendants, but would be interested in finding any descendants of their sisters and brothers.
My ancestors are:
John Grombach *4.4.1882 Sommerberg +21.1.1945
oo Sophia Jaag *27.10.1881 Cumberland + 11.5.1955

Johns sisters and brothers are
Johann Friedrich *8.1.1872 Zottishofen (He stayed in Germany, I know the descendants)
Catharina *25.3.1875 Sommerberg + Cowdenbeath
Rosina  * 24.1.1877 Sommerberg
Georg *10.5.1878 +12.12.1956 Cowdenbeath. Butcher in Cowdenbeath (8 childs, I am contact to some of his grandchildren)
Magdalene *7.1.1880 (She married in Edinburgh a Johann Frentz, I know the names of their 5 children and some grandchildren)
Heinrich *13.4.1884 Sommerberg (I know just the names of his 3 children Elsa, Irma and Wills)
Gottlieb *Weidersbach (I know the name of his son Karl)
Karl (I know the name of of his son Richard)

Sophias brothers and sisters are
Jaag, Karoline, * 27.03.1878
Jaag, Friedrich Georg, * 26.03.1880
Jaag, Johann Christian, * 30.12.1882
Jaag, Johann Georg Friedrich Heinrich, * 09.09.1885

I will be thankful for any answer.
Patrick Martin
Grombach Gronbach
Yaag Jaag Jag

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Re: German Pork Butchers in Britain
« Reply #610 on: Tuesday 21 February 17 20:06 GMT (UK) »
'The Derbyshire Times and Chesterfield Advertiser', available online, has advertisements for the Haags shops in Chesterfield and reports of the Pork Butchers' Association Annual Meetings. 
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Re: German Pork Butchers in Britain
« Reply #611 on: Tuesday 21 February 17 20:57 GMT (UK) »
Excellent Thanks Carol - Ill look at that- to find more stuff re  my Great Grandpa George Haag
I'm also looking into some  family recipes - I don't have any written down but I think I might be able to find some somewhere.
Georgina