George Harris STEPHENS - Census help please

[Tati]

The 1851 census reveals that little Charlotte's father was Thomas Champion.
(HO107/1490 798 49)

Marriage Thomas Champion/Charlotte Wilby Jun 1849 Bethnal Green 2 9


Please let me know if you don't have access to the censuses, I'll post all the details.

[Necromancer]

Ref Rosa in 1881

This one maybe? (age 7 months)

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=uki1881&indiv=try&h=4805184
RG11/1718 66 16

How strange - she didnt show up with a keyword of 'Stepney'

I guess its cos age is indexed as 'blank' - think I've been caught like that before - just shows that 'specifying less is more'  is a good practice   

[Tati]

Been caught like that too. Now I never enter an age when searching ancestry's 1881 census for a baby 

[vivwill]

Hello Tati and Passed Master,
Thankyou so much for all your help.
I am able to access various Census sites but they are all pay sites except for the 1881 records and its impossible to tell from just a name which is the record you are looking for, so I would really appreciate receiving what you have.

Its the same with George and Ethel - the other two children;  I can get a long list of names but nothing which indicates they are our ones.

I'm thrilled to bits with what you have sent sofar.

regards,
Viv

[vivwill]

An update.

George Stephens son of George  and Charlotte Stephens was born 6 January 1876 which would make him 5 for 1881 census.   I think I have found him in the 1881 Census on Findmypast - he is recorded as a visitor at the home of John and Sarah Taylor, 15-17 Jubilee St, Mile End Old Town.   We have no connection to the Taylors that I know of however the rest of the information fits.   
Thats the first time I have used that site for Census - so back I went looking for Ethel who I understand was born between George and Annie - making it around late 1876 to 1878.     Cant find a birth.   I could only find an entry for an Ethel Stephens on the 1901 census aged 24 born at Hackney - so not sure if that is her or not.   I also found a marriage for Ethel, London city,  to Harry NORMAN - again not sure if its her.

If you are able to progress this further for me it would be great.

Thanks,   Viv

[Tati]

Hi again 

Here's the only census where George is with the children you mention (minus George though!)

1891
RG9/272 125 11
Ilford, Essex
2 Charlotte Cottages
4 rooms occupied
George H Stephens, head, mar, 40, Journalist Author, b. Bristol
Ethel, dau, 17, scholar, b. Stepney London
Annie, dau, 12, scholar, b. do.
Rosa, dau, 10, scholar, b. do.
Charles, son, 4, scholar, b. Bow Middlesex
Lilian, dau, 3, scholar, b. do.

By 1901 George sr is lodging at West Ham Essex:
George H Stephens, lodger, mar, 50, Business Transfer Agent, own account, b. Bristol Bedminster

[Tati]

You say you can't find a birth for Ethel.

I'm afraid I can see too many! 

Ethel Stephens
Jun 1873 Mile End Old Town 1c 491

or

Ethel Stephens
Sep 1873 Mile End Old Town 1c 490

Visiting a Loane family in 1881:
http://www.rootschat.com/links/07a8/
RG11/482 39 10

 

[Tati]

The 1891 census for George jr confirms our previous finds (George sr's parents as found in 1881 by Passed Master)

1891
RG12/1314 34 18
West Ham, Essex
Stratford
80 Major Rd
John Stephens, head, 66, Brass Finisher Engineer, b. Bristol Temple Glos
Eliza A, wife, 67, b. Yorkshire Wakefield
George, grandson, 15, Plumber's Mate, b. London Mile End
William Walsh, boarder, s, 42, Labourer, b. Spain Valladoio

[Tati]

Time to quickly trace George Harris Stephens back

We've seen 1901, 1891 and 1881.

Can't see him in 1871 right away but here he is earlier: Found now

1871
RG10/554 156 37
Mile End Old Town, London
9 Old Suffolk St
John Stevens, head, 46, Brass Finisher, b. Bristol
Eliza A, wife, 47, b. Wakefield Yorkshire
Eliza A, dau, 23, Tie Maker (silk), b. Bedminster Bristol
George H, son, 21, Insurance Agent, b. do.


1861
RG9/272 125 11
Whitechapel, Middlesex
6 Gowers Walk
John Stephens, head, 36, Brass Finisher, b. Somersetshire Bristol
Eliza A, wife, 37, b. Yorkshire Wakefield
John H, son, 15, Pupil Teacher, b. Somersetshire Wellington
Eliza A, dau, 13, scholar, b. Bristol
George H, son, 11, scholar, b. do.

1851
HO107/1945 380 35
Bedminster, Somerset
2 Wellington Place
John Stephens, head, 25, Brass Founder, b. Bristol Somerset
Eliza Ann, wife, 27, b. Wakefield Yorkshire
John Harris do., son, 5, scholar, b. Wellington Somerset
Eliza Ann, dau, 3, scholar, b. Bristol Somerset
George Harris do., son, 1, b. do.