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Re: Charlotte ABERCROMBIE to Queensland?
« Reply #27 on: Thursday 20 August 20 10:47 BST (UK) »
See previous thread on this person: https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=412985
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Re: Charlotte ABERCROMBIE to Queensland?
« Reply #28 on: Thursday 20 August 20 14:36 BST (UK) »
A new post raised here.  Have asked moderator to merge it with this one

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Re: Charlotte ABERCROMBIE to Queensland?
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Re: Charlotte ABERCROMBIE to Queensland?
« Reply #30 on: Thursday 20 August 20 15:58 BST (UK) »
William Abercrombie and his sisters had older sister Elizabeth Mary bap 1 October 1826 Berkshire

1851 all 3 girls Elizabeth, Harriet and Mary are all in service as servants.

All have parents as William Abercrombie and Emma

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Re: Charlotte ABERCROMBIE to Queensland?
« Reply #31 on: Friday 21 August 20 01:38 BST (UK) »
1841
Maidenhead Cookham Berks
William Abercrombie 40
Emma 41
William 12
Mary 9
Harriet 5
Louise 2
all b Berkshire

maybe this is why the sisters spent time living with brother William

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Mar qtr 1843 Cookham reg district
Emma Abercromby

Burial
William Abercrombie
age 47
residence Maidenhead
Burial 20 May 1849 St Michael Bray berks

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Re: Charlotte ABERCROMBIE to Queensland?
« Reply #32 on: Friday 21 August 20 01:52 BST (UK) »
Thank you for your prompt responses . In addition to the original posting , I am seeking information in the following areas ...
# Information on Charlotte's education ... and subsequent employment [if any ] in England .
# Information on the relationship between Charlotte and her mother Elizabeth Mary Abercrombie [1826-1915] . Elizabeth outlived her daughter by 17 years . I would be interested to establish details of the relationship between Mother and Daughter both before and after the migration to Australia in 1880.
# Charlotte lived most of her early life in the household of Thomas and Amelia Fry of Cookham . I would appreciate any information relating her time with this family .

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Re: Charlotte ABERCROMBIE to Queensland?
« Reply #33 on: Friday 21 August 20 03:09 BST (UK) »
Charlotte lived most of her early life in the household of Thomas and Amelia Fry of Cookham . I would appreciate any information relating her time with this family .

What information leads you to believe Charlotte spent most of her early life with Thomas and Amelia Fry??

1861 Charlotte age 3 was living with her uncle William and her aunts Harriet and Louise - her mother Elizabeth Mary was working as a servant to help pay for her keep as Elizabeth mary's parents both died before 1851 -it seems William tried to keep the family together when they were all orphaned
1871 Charlotte aged 13 described as a scholar was a boarder with Thomas Fry and wife Amelia - I can't find any relationship between them and Charlotte or any other information which has her staying with them other than at the time of the 1871 census
It seems Thomas and Amelia Fry took in lodgers/boarders
Thomas was a butcher and married Amelia East (who was from Great marlow Buckinghamshire ) 7th Nov 1841 in Chelsea London in 1841witnesses were Thomas and Hannah Jewell or Sewell?
27 February 1850 Thomas Fry was convicted of Larceny at Berkshire and given a sentence of imprisonment for 2 years
so 1851 census thomas was in prison and Amelia was living in Cookham area
1851
Amelia Fry M 34 Marlow Bucks
Thomas Fry son 8 Marlow Bucks
Henry Fry son 5 N Town Berks
Eleanor Fry daughter N Town Berks
Richard Fry son 2 N Town Berks
Sarah Webb Lodger 4 Bray berks
James WWebb Lodger 3 Bray Berks
Mary Bates visitor U 26
Jane Bates visitor 3
Joseph Bates visitor 1
(Bates all b Paddington no19 Harrow Rd

so quite a busy household

Maybe Charlotte's mother worked to pay for her to be boarded out ??
Or maybe bastardy records could give information on the father who may/may not have been paying for her keep????

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Re: Charlotte ABERCROMBIE to Queensland?
« Reply #34 on: Friday 21 August 20 07:00 BST (UK) »
Hello Suz, Thank you for this interesting information . Two Comments . With respect to Elizabeth Abercrombie , Charlotte's mother , she was working as a domestic servant in a house at Iver , Buckinghamshire when she fell pregnant with Charlotte . It appears that the father was either unable or unwilling to marry her . I have been unable to uncover his identity . Elizabeth would have lost or resigned her position and returned to the family home at  Cookham for the birth . There is no record of any interest or support from the father to Elizabeth or Charlotte .
 Your information on the Fry's was interesting . Although the Census records in 1871 , show Charlotte as a Boarder , she must have retained some fond memories of the Fry family . When she married for the second time in 1895 to Arthur Henry Copeman in Charters Towers , Australia , her parents on the Wedding Certificate were recorded as Thomas and Amelia Fry . Elizabeth , her real mother , was still alive at the time !
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