thomas scott & sophia

[g forgeron]

Thomas Scott's death is registered in Stamford,77 in 1866. His wife Sophia also died in Stamford 80 in 1869. I'm trying to establish her maiden name and where and when they were married. I've only just joined RootsChat and I'm not too sure how this all works. Am I doing it correctly?

[lizdb]

Hello, welcome and yes you are doing fine!

Rather than jump straight from their deaths to their marriage it might be best to go one step at a time and work back through the censuses, to trace their movements if any and see what family they had etc.
Before we start hunting, can you say if you have already got them in 1861, 51 ,41 censuses?

[lizdb]

Here is 1861 in case you havent got it

RG9 2313 68 17
Collyweston
Thomas Scott 72 slaters labourer bn Colyweston
Sophia 73 wife bn Peterborough
John Hand son in law 48 slaters lab bn CW
Sophia Hand 34 dtr bn CW
Eliza Hand 3 grandautr bn CW
Susan hand 1 grandtr bn CW

[genjen]

Hello,

Liz, I am thinking the same way as you and have found them in 1861....

Rg9/2313/68/17
Colly weston, Northants ( Stamford Reg District)

Thomas Scott, 72, Head, Slater's  labourer, born Colly Weston
Sophia, 73,                                             Peterborough
John Hand, son in law, 48,   "         "        Colly Weston
Sophia, 34, dau                                              "
Eliza Hand,3  gdau,
Susan "      1,  "

Jen

Sorry - bring back the red notices, please!!

[lizdb]

Sorry - bring back the red notices, please!!

No probs!
Are you doing 1851?

I'll take a squint at 1841!

[g forgeron]

All I have is the birth of their son Valentine Scott 14th April 1828, registered in Collyweston. Unlike Scotland a birth certificate in England gives no details of the parents marriage or the mother's maiden name, hence my frustration. I have no census details Many thanks for the prompt reply

[lizdb]

1841
Colley weston

Thomas Scot 50 Slater Y
Sophia 50 Y
John 20 Y
Sophia 15 Y
Valentine 10 Y
Isabelah 8 Y
John Welbon 5 N
Emma Scot 2 Y       (not sure if last two are same household or not - bit young to be living on their own!)

[lizdb]

All I have is the birth of their son Valentine Scott 14th April 1828, registered in Collyweston. Unlike Scotland a birth certificate in England gives no details of the parents marriage or the mother's maiden name, hence my frustration. I have no census details Many thanks for the prompt reply

An English birth certificate would give mothers maiden name, but Valentine was born before Civil Registration started, so there were no birth certs then.
Do you know if they had any children after 1837? they may have been a bit old by then.
I'll see if 1851 shows any - 1841 doesnt give relationships so it is unclear if Emma age 2 is theirs or not.

[genjen]

A birth in 1828, in England, wouldn't have been registered or have a certificate. That didn't start until 1837 ( Scotland was 1855).

So what you have is is likely to be Valentine's baptism, which would normally give the father's name but not necessarily the mother.

At least you know that they were in Colley Weston in 1841 and there should be a chance of finding the marriage in the parish records.

Liz,  I had gone for 1841 as aswell!

Jen