tarling/roby

[cathayb]

oh fantastic.sorry you been on your own.i will be here tonite at different points.trouble with us gypsies we are all at the market saturday having a chin wag.you are my friend for life all you done for me.thanks thanks so much.

[cathayb]

hi all you have both rreally helped build m y tree for me.thanks
can we find a marriasge for james higgins and margaret?there is some talk that she came from ireland but have never found any justification for it?maybe james perants did.it would be cork if it wss right but somehow i dont think so!what you both think.i wonder re the willwys too who margartet lowen was?had she been married before or had a son out of wedlock.interesting anyway.love cathay

[JaneyJ]

Hi Cathay,

Well my couple of hours turned into 12hours, not enough weetabix Cathay  a weekend in hospital, I do not recommend kidney stone's people . pain you would not believe, but would recommend the morphine, looooooovly stuff.

I found the census reports you found jaytoot, and was taken into hospital before I could post them...honest  so our research seems to agree.

I found one more I'm not sure of though, 1901 John Willey aged 65, married, General Laborer??.  He was in the union Workhouse in Hanover Square. Now I'm not positive about this one as his wife was not in the Workhouse, I looked at every individual, and I could not find her anywhere else, so some more research is needed on that one.

It looked to me Cathay as though young Charles was an only child, unless......his father was married before?.  He did marry late.

I also found a birth on the IGI for a John Willey father Charles, and I can't find it anywhere on my desk, I'll keep looking and get back to you.

Aha, found the 41 census I wasn't sure of, just to mix the pot a bit.

1841 High Lever Essex  Ref: HO 107/336/7

Charles Wiley age 30, occ Wheelwright
Sarah Wiley     age 30,
Eliza Wiley        age 10
Elizabeth Wiley age 5
John Wiley        age 3
William Wiley    age 1

Need to follow Charles up to make sure.

1891 St George Hanover Square, Belgrave, 50 "Monument" Street (I think)

John Willey    Head, Age 54, occ House Painter, b: Essex "High Lane"
Jane Willey    Wife, age 51, b: Epping
Charles A Willey Son, age 14, occ Office Boy Port. b: Essex "High Lane"
Plus 3 others one a Nephew aged 19, the other 2 were females aged 23 and 44yrs and said to be visitors, I need to study these names a little longer Cathay as the handwriting is really bad, I'll let you know as soon as I've got it.

Jane

[jaytoot]

Hi Jane,

Sorry to hear about your weekend - not nice. I've been to busy to do much and visiting someone in hospital too.

Cathy, you mention a wedding ...........charles albert married agnes emma godfrey ........I can't find this on free bmd.......was it a real wedding or did they just jump the broomstick!!

Anyway I've completely lost the thread now and need to read through it all a few times to sort it out.

regards,

Jim

[cathayb]

as far as i know it was a ral w wedding but i dont have the cert.youyr doling great though.i have had kidney stones!!!worse then giving birth to my 5!!!!agnes emma was known as jinnie by the way and her surname was godfrey.i have done the godfrey tree before my accident and okay with that.i think agnes emma/emma agnes married about 1920 as she lost a son still born before having m y dad charles jeffrey in 1926.

re the higgins i like to see a marriage for margaret and james as there is some talk her family  were irish.Who k nows.thanks again for what you are both doing

[jaytoot]

Hi Cathy,

Possible marriage for James Higgins to Margaret Ross - March Q. 1875 Poplar.

1871 Census London Poplar
11 Margaret street

William Ross age 54, Stevedor, B. Cork Ireland.
Fanny (wife) age 43 B. Cork Ireland
Margaret (daughter) age 18, Machinist, B. Middlesex London

1861 Census Middlesex Whitechapel
Gowers road

William Ross age 45, Dock Laborour, B. Cork Ireland.
Fanny (wife) age 33 B. Cork Ireland
Dora (daughter) age 11, B. Cork Ireland
Margaret (daughter) age 9, B. Whitechapel
Michael (son) age 4, B. Whitechapel
George (son) age 1, B. Whitechapel

igi has this for Margaret Ross

Birth:   27 APR 1852      
Christening: 17 DEC 1854   St Botolph Without Aldgate, London, London, England
Father William Ross
Mother Fanny


looks like it could be the same Margaret as she is a machinist in the census after she marries James Higgins.

Regards,

Jim

[cathayb]

oh brilliant.i am gobsmacked.just goin ring thre fasmily now

[cathayb]

i think there is now an irish shindig going on over in my familys home!!!they are so happy to have rumour confirmed.i wish i could send you both a big bouquet of flowers for all youve done for my step dad.do you know in my roma ny trree of my husband joe birch i have nearly 11,000 folki all relatives by blood or marriage and nearly all dead!!!but with out my ancestry menbershiop and also being injured the last 5 months there wass nothing i could do about the robey?tarlings with any surety.you are both stars.thanks again and anything more you find greatly appreciated.hope to help both of ypou one of these days.this has been better than some of the scavenger hunts i have had,!!!!!

[jaytoot]

Hi Cathy,

glad it confirmed the rumour. I had a similar one in my family that my grandad came from Cork - but  he was born in London and his father came from Dublin.

I couldnt see anything more on Margarets brothers or sister which is a shame.

Cheers,

Jim