Dorothy Elizabeth Carroll

[aghadowey]

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I am still trying to trace my husband mother and have purchased a couple of birth certs Dorothy Lilian Carroll has the correct date of birth 1st March 1913 but has no father on the certificate just mother Norah Carroll who was a domestic servant in Nottingham, Dorothy Enid Carroll has the wrong birthday.
I have also look at Irish/ Northern Irish births without success, this seem a bit of an enigma
Any further suggestion would be appreciated.

Why can't the birth certificate for Dorothy Lilian Carroll be the correct one?

[tilly25]

It can’t be Dorothy Lillian Carroll wrong middle name, on Marriage cert and 1939 register it states Dorothy Elizabeth Carroll with father’s name of William Carroll (deceased) soldier.
On Dorothy Lillian Carroll birth cert no father named and has taken mothers surname.

[Annette7]

What address does she give when she married James Brett?

Annette

[tilly25]

They both lived at 20 Noel St, Nottingham

[myluck!]

Where is she on the 1939 register as I think I am finding her as Elizabeth D BRETT DoB 01.03.1913
If this is her perhaps she was registered as Elizabeth

Also I have had many a relative whose name in later life did not accurately reflect their birth records e.g. Mary Martha being Matilda all her life!

[iolaus]

Hi

I am still trying to trace my husband mother and have purchased a couple of birth certs Dorothy Lilian Carroll has the correct date of birth 1st March 1913 but has no father on the certificate just mother Norah Carroll who was a domestic servant in Nottingham,

I wouldn't rule her out -Lilian and Elizabeth do seem to exchange themselves (especially if she was in an orphanage she may not be exactly sure of her name) I know my great grandfather born at a similar time acquired a middle name at some point, which is on both marriage and death certificates but not his  birth certificate

You said yourself she was a bit of a story teller, she wouldn;t be the first to make up a father to cover the stigma of being illegimate (or even been told that by her mother)

[iolaus]

Where is she on the 1939 register as I think I am finding her as Elizabeth D BRETT DoB 01.03.1913
If this is her perhaps she was registered as Elizabeth

Thats true my husbands great grandmother was born Lily Nora, but she used Norah Lily the rest of her life

OP who were the witnesses on the marriage certificate that may give us clues

[tilly25]

On 1939 register they were living at 9 Wellington St, Arnold

The witnesses to the marriage were George and Mabel Thompson. Vicar is B Kenyon

[Hattierose]

Hello,

It is very interesting to stumble across this thread - we also have a family member who has the mother's name of Dorothy Elizabeth Carroll on his birth certificate. He was born in the Nottingham area in 1935 (no father's name on the birth certificate) and was adopted. We have not been able to find any further information or family connections so far.

Our research has led us to the possibility that this is also the same Elizabeth Dorothy that married James Brett so it is very interesting that you have also made this suggestion!!

And Maria, if this is the case then there is a possibility we may all be related?!

It could all be a coincidence but if there is a chance that we are talking about the same person, it would be extremely interesting to talk further - perhaps we might be able to share some information.

Judy/Alan/Maria, it would be fascinating to discuss this further, would you mind getting in touch via email please (I am not able to PM yet)?

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I really hope that someone sees this message and we are able to connect.

Our grandad is now around 84 and has never known any of his real family so even the smallest link would be interesting to explore 

Many thanks,
Hattie and Grace




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