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Re: Dorothy Elizabeth Carroll
« Reply #27 on: Thursday 03 June 21 12:13 BST (UK) »
Have been in touch with Nottingham archives. Norah Carroll went to Southwell House when 5 months pregnant and gave birth to Dorothy who weighed 4lbs 10ozs on 1/3/1913

I also found Norah mother Mary Carroll who was admitted from the parish of St Mary’s to give birth to Norah on 13/1/1892

I am now searching for Mary who was born in 1858 not sure if in Nottinghamshire  Have now found Mary on 1891 census boarding  at  26 Cathcart st Nottingham which states she was born in Derbyshire but not where
Behn- West Derby/ Germany
 Boulton- Staffs,
 Brett- Nottingham,
 Gerry- Devon/ Wilts,
Pawlyn- Cornwall,
Shawcross- Lancashire
Goodwin- Staffs
Mohring- Hanover Germany/ Lancs
Walne-Lancs
Ginn- Cornwall
Betlin- Cornwall
Scantlebury-Cornwall

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Re: Dorothy Elizabeth Carroll
« Reply #28 on: Thursday 03 June 21 14:05 BST (UK) »
The 1891 census actually does say that Mary was born in Derby, Derbyshire.  However the image shows that there are ditto marks under the head of household's birth place.

The only birth that appears to fit for a Derby birth registration is this one:-

CARROLL, MARY       DEMPSEY 
GRO Reference: 1856  M Quarter in DERBY  Volume 07B  Page 360

This is two years earlier than the birth year given in the 1891 census.  Have you tried tracing Mary in earlier census records?
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire

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Re: Dorothy Elizabeth Carroll
« Reply #29 on: Thursday 03 June 21 14:18 BST (UK) »
I was totally thrown by no town just Derbyshire, I have her year of birth 1858 from the information received from Nottingham archives
Behn- West Derby/ Germany
 Boulton- Staffs,
 Brett- Nottingham,
 Gerry- Devon/ Wilts,
Pawlyn- Cornwall,
Shawcross- Lancashire
Goodwin- Staffs
Mohring- Hanover Germany/ Lancs
Walne-Lancs
Ginn- Cornwall
Betlin- Cornwall
Scantlebury-Cornwall

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Re: Dorothy Elizabeth Carroll
« Reply #30 on: Thursday 03 June 21 14:59 BST (UK) »
Do I take it that the information from Nottinghamshire archives related to Norah rather than Mary?  If it included Mary did it say anything else about her other than her birth year?

Were any addresses mentioned that were not Norah's birth place?
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire


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Re: Dorothy Elizabeth Carroll
« Reply #31 on: Thursday 03 June 21 15:07 BST (UK) »
The information I received were related to births of Dorothy and Norah. The only information about Mary was her dob 1858, no further addresses given other than what I have on birth certs which is Mary a hose hand of 10 Hills Yard, Millstone Lane Nottingham in 1892
Behn- West Derby/ Germany
 Boulton- Staffs,
 Brett- Nottingham,
 Gerry- Devon/ Wilts,
Pawlyn- Cornwall,
Shawcross- Lancashire
Goodwin- Staffs
Mohring- Hanover Germany/ Lancs
Walne-Lancs
Ginn- Cornwall
Betlin- Cornwall
Scantlebury-Cornwall

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« Reply #32 on: Thursday 03 June 21 15:39 BST (UK) »
The 1891 census that I was looking at I think must be the right one.  Mary's occupation is given as hosiery turner off which would go well with hose hand.

I'm just wondering how accurate her birth place is.  I assume that the 1891 census is the only one on which you have located her?  Any suggestion that she married?
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire

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Re: Dorothy Elizabeth Carroll
« Reply #33 on: Thursday 03 June 21 15:50 BST (UK) »
I did find a Mary Carroll on 1881 census born Acklington Derbyshire 1858, the address of the census was Ardwick Lancs
Father Patrick aged 50
Mother Bridget aged 60
Sister Sarah aged 21 piecer (cotton mills)
Sister Catherine aged 17 same occ.

This could be her or not
Behn- West Derby/ Germany
 Boulton- Staffs,
 Brett- Nottingham,
 Gerry- Devon/ Wilts,
Pawlyn- Cornwall,
Shawcross- Lancashire
Goodwin- Staffs
Mohring- Hanover Germany/ Lancs
Walne-Lancs
Ginn- Cornwall
Betlin- Cornwall
Scantlebury-Cornwall

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Re: Dorothy Elizabeth Carroll
« Reply #34 on: Thursday 03 June 21 16:00 BST (UK) »
Yes I did see that one and wondered.  Acklington according to Google is in Northumberland and comes under the Alnwick registration district.

I'll see if I can find this family in the 1871 census.
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire

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Re: Dorothy Elizabeth Carroll
« Reply #35 on: Thursday 03 June 21 16:03 BST (UK) »
I check the same out then saw on another 1881 census site it also said Derbyshire very confusing
Behn- West Derby/ Germany
 Boulton- Staffs,
 Brett- Nottingham,
 Gerry- Devon/ Wilts,
Pawlyn- Cornwall,
Shawcross- Lancashire
Goodwin- Staffs
Mohring- Hanover Germany/ Lancs
Walne-Lancs
Ginn- Cornwall
Betlin- Cornwall
Scantlebury-Cornwall