Amos of Whitford

[Elsa-Mary]

Hello from Jaen in Spain
I have recently discovered my great-grandmother came, from Whitford.
Her name was Mary Harriot Amos-born about 1859-she married Edward H? ROBERTS IN emmanuel (Everton in1885),  accoeding to 1861 census-her father was Thomas Amos .
married to Margaret?
Anyone reaserching Amos family have any info --Please!
Thank You
Elsa-Mary from chilly Spain

[taidgazacaz]

http://northwalesbmd.org.uk/  shows the birth of Mary Harriott Amos, registered Flitshire(Mold) in 1858; ref number WHIT/08/97
There are also a number of other Amos births registered Whitford district around this time, who could be siblings.

[Paul]

Hello Elsa-Mary,
I had a look in Whitford & Hloywell parish registers but couldn't see a baptism
for Mary Harriot Amos

Do you have her parents marriage details & does the census give Thomas's Occupation.

Paul.

[Elsa-Mary]

Hi,Paul and taidgazacaz

Thanks for your replies, and help.

I managed  today  to get 1861 census which shows  address Mertyn Flintshire.
folowing people listed;

Roberts , -Hugh Widower 66 b1795- Carpenter-Llanover
Amos ,-Thomas lodger,28 b1833- Sawyer-Whitford
Amos,- Margaret ,wife 30 b 1831 Whitford
Roberts,- Hannah, daughter 13 b 1848  at school,  Whitford
Amos,- Hanah Jane daughter 4, b1857, Whitford
Amos,- Mary Harriot daughter 2, b 1859, Whitford.
Amos, -John Son 1,b1860 Whitford.

This appears to be the right family.

By 1871, my goodness there were another 5 children!!!
Anne E-  b  1864,
Margaret,-b1865,
Robert,b1867,
Thomas O,b1869,
Louisa, infant b1871
And Brother-in-Law William Roberts.

All I have  re  Mary Harriott Amos is  marriage to Edward H (Humphrey)Roberts at Everton Emmanuel Liverpool,  1885.

So now did  wonder if Edward H Roberts was related to the1861  Hugh Roberts,and their lodger William Roberts in 1871 census!.
I have the 1911 census return and it says Edward( 1861)  was born in Liverpool! so that knocks that on the head!!!
so I'm stuck  finding him!!

I v'e had no luck finding  Thomas Amos's parents,I would think they would probably be from Whitford area.

Many thanks again
Elsa-Mary, in chilly Spain

[Paul]

Hi I think the address on the 1861 is Mostyn.

Mostyn marriage Sep 6 1856.
Thomas Amos. full age. Bachelor. Sawyer. Abode, Whitford. Father, John. Occ, Miner.
Margaret Roberts. full age. Spinster. Abode, Mostyn. Father, Hugh. Occ, Farmer.
Witnesses. Michael Robers & Elysa Roberts.

Mostyn Baptism. Jan 4 1857.
Hannah. d/o Thomas & Margaret Amos. abode, Mostyn. Occ, Sawyer.

I couldn't see baptisms for any of the other Children in Mostyn, Whitford or Holywell.
 It looks like they went Chapel. There is a Cysegr Independent Chapel in Mostyn but the Records Office only have birth & death records 1832-37.

Paul.

[taidgazacaz]

I think I've managed to follow Thomas Amos, born c1832, through all the censuses from 1841 to 1901. I've created a spreadsheet, so if you can open MS Excel or perhaps Word as a table, I can post it as an attachment.
One thing seems clear; it's fairly obvious that Thomas' wife Margaret was a Roberts, so we may be able to find the marriage.
One thing which is rather puzzling, which is shown in Elsa-Mary's previous post: in 1861 Margaret Harriot is 2 yrs old, but in 1871 we see a 12 yr old Mary A, and another Margaret aged 6 (this one appears in 1881 aged 15.) So if Margaret Harriott survived, why do we see a new Margaret, and where was Margaret Harriott in 1871?

This is what makes family history such fun !!

[taidgazacaz]

Sorry, I missed the fact that Paul has already found the marriage of Thomas and Margaret.
The censuses confirm Thomas' occupation; 1851 farm labourer, 1861, 1871 sawyer, 1881, 1891, 1901 woodman.

[Elsa-Mary]

Beunos Notches,


Many thanks,for your help,I can hardly believe how quickly this family has been traced right back to basically 1832-Thomas Amos birth.

(I have been  reseaching my paternal line from Liverpool,and it has been 4 years in total to get to marriage of Peter Lunt in 1820,but cannot seem to find his father!!)     so this is fantastic!!! techno;ogy and wonderful people on this forum




WHAT A RESULT   ! , I felt sure that it was going to be a LONG haul ,
but thanks to you all.
TAIDGAZACAZ and PAUL, i am so grateful.
I would be delighted to receive your spreadsheet,I have Word so shouldn't be a problem.

RE MARGARET AMOS,  born c 1865 she was 6yrs old in 1871,was there a bit of confusion as Mary Harriott was 12yrs old as she was born c 1859?

As a matter of interest Mary Harriot was servant in 1881 in the  L J  Mortimer Household at    77 Church  Rd
Tramere Cheshire, a  Vicars home, AND OF COURSE MARRIED IN 1885.

I was born in N Ireland and  at 10 yrs of age moved to LLANBERIS IN CAERNARVONSHIRE , now known as Gwynedd, and had been told my grandmother Margaret Eleanor Roberts was Welsh,so now I know from where she originated- Thanks
Elsa-Mary

[taidgazacaz]

Please bear with me! I'm having difficulty converting my Excel spreadsheet into Word. I used to be good at this, but I seem to have lost the knack!

Are we to take it that Margaret Eleanor Roberts was the daughter of Mary Harriott? You haven't mentioned her before!