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Re: Plymouth James DOEL 1830
« Reply #18 on: Saturday 14 November 09 10:16 GMT (UK) »
Would be interested to hear details of marriage cert!!

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Re: Plymouth James DOEL 1830
« Reply #19 on: Saturday 14 November 09 22:39 GMT (UK) »
Yes Suz ......... it's time to buy certificates.
Another interesting and curious record that might reveal something is just who was Albert Stickler who was 1 year old in 1871?
The only Albert Stickler birth between 1868 and 1872 was at St George Hanover Square London in Sept Qtr 1870 which is 'right on' for the 1871 entry.
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Re: Plymouth James DOEL 1830
« Reply #20 on: Saturday 14 November 09 23:27 GMT (UK) »
Searching the 1871 census shows that Albert Stickler is sill in St George Hanover Sq with his parents Hezikiah Stickler born Castle Combe Wilts aged 35 and his wife Ellen born Wooton Undercliffe GLS aged 33 no other family members.
This requires a relook at;
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1871
Marlborough Row
Portsea
George baker head M 58 Boiler Maker & Beerhouse keeper Bridgwater Somerset
Ann Baker wife 44 Nunney Somerset
Albert Stickler  stepson 1 Parish of St Thomas? Somerset
KERRENHAPPUCH DOLE mother W 77 Ind paxton?
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to see if Albert's surname is other than stated in the census.
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Re: Plymouth James DOEL 1830
« Reply #21 on: Sunday 15 November 09 00:42 GMT (UK) »
Searching the 1871 census shows that Albert Stickler is sill in St George Hanover Sq with his parents Hezikiah Stickler born Castle Combe Wilts aged 35 and his wife Ellen born Wooton Undercliffe GLS aged 33 no other family members.
This requires a relook at;
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1871
Marlborough Row
Portsea
George baker head M 58 Boiler Maker & Beerhouse keeper Bridgwater Somerset
Ann Baker wife 44 Nunney Somerset
Albert Stickler  stepson 1 Parish of St Thomas? Somerset
KERRENHAPPUCH DOLE mother W 77 Ind paxton?
.......................................................................................
to see if Albert's surname is other than stated in the census.
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This looks like the family in 1861
21 York Place
Portsea hants
George Baker head M 47 Boiler maker bridgwater Smerset
Cathrine wife 46 Houseley Suffok
mary A daughter 18 Milliner Woolwich kent
Catherine daughter 15 Woolwich kent
George son 11 portsea hants
RG9 637 89 26

In 1851 George's wife was still catherine


but in 1881 George's wife was jane
Gloucester St portsea hants
George baker head m 68 Boiler maker Somerset
Jane wife 53 Someret
Clara Stickland step daughter 13 Frome
helen Hooper nurse child 4 Salisury Wilts
Robert Brown oarder u 21 Seaman IOW Ryde
RG11 1148 68 41
So - could Albert be a Stickland  not a Stickler???

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Re: Plymouth James DOEL 1830
« Reply #22 on: Sunday 15 November 09 00:57 GMT (UK) »
I'll drink to that Suz ......... you just beat me to it as I was about to post the 1881.
I looked for a birth entry for Albert Strickler and variants 1868 +- 2 with no luck then looked at magnification of Albert in 1871 and think it looks much more like 'Frome' than St Thomas ... then looked for just 1st name 'Albert' births in Frome and the only one that 'rings my bell' is Baker Albert Bridgwater 5c 455 March qtr 1869 who would be my choice for best candidate.
Is there a 'cover up' somewhere?
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Re: Plymouth James DOEL 1830
« Reply #23 on: Sunday 15 November 09 01:04 GMT (UK) »
then again

1871
Butts frome Somerset
mary Porsch (transcribed as -not at all sure that is correct?) hed W 35 Housework and laundry Nunney Somerset
George Porsch? Uncle 70 Formerley farmer Chiltern Wilts
Frank Porsch Son 15 masons lab Frome
Mary A Ring Lodger U 20 cloth urler Frome
John Hisn ? Lodger u 17 masons lab Frome
CLARA STICKLER neice 3 scholar frome
RG10 2432 33 18

then there is this birth reg
Clara Sticklen
Jun qtr 1867
Frome
5c 363

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Re: Plymouth James DOEL 1830
« Reply #24 on: Sunday 15 November 09 01:09 GMT (UK) »
I'll drink to that Suz ......... you just beat me to it as I was about to post the 1881.
I looked for a birth entry for Albert Strickler and variants 1868 +- 2 with no luck then looked at magnification of Albert in 1871 and think it looks much more like 'Frome' than St Thomas ... then looked for just 1st name 'Albert' births in Frome and the only one that 'rings my bell' is Baker Albert Bridgwater 5c 455 March qtr 1869 who would be my choice for best candidate.
Is there a 'cover up' somewhere?
Joe


seems like it - with grandchild in law -and stepsons - it's keeping us interested though???
I may be on wrong track altogether - but I feel if we can sort this baker family - find the connection with theDoel family we will have made a great stride

Suz
Thornhill, Cresswell, Sisson, Harriman, Cripps, Eyre, Walter, Marson, Battison, Holmes, Bailey, Hardman, Fairhurst Noon-mainly in Derbys/Notts-but also Northampton, Oxford, Leics, Lancs-England
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Re: Plymouth James DOEL 1830
« Reply #25 on: Sunday 15 November 09 01:22 GMT (UK) »
looked for marriages of George Baker Portsea and found these;
Marriages Sep 1877   (>99%)
Baker    George        Portsea    2b   810   
Newnham    Jane         Portsea    2b   810    
PRESTON    Edward         Portsea    2b   810    
WELLS    Eliza Jane    Portsea    2b   810   
So it could be either Eliza Jane or Jane .. I'll back Jane.
Now to look for death of George's former Ann.
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Re: Plymouth James DOEL 1830
« Reply #26 on: Sunday 15 November 09 01:31 GMT (UK) »
I have discovered Ann was Ann Newport

Marriage freeBMD
Jun qtr 1849
Frome
on same page
Ann newport
William Stricklen
10 651

her sister was Mary Newport who married a Portch

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Thornhill, Cresswell, Sisson, Harriman, Cripps, Eyre, Walter, Marson, Battison, Holmes, Bailey, Hardman, Fairhurst Noon-mainly in Derbys/Notts-but also Northampton, Oxford, Leics, Lancs-England
Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk