Janet Milligan born about 1812

[trudym]

there is a problem with Timothy being the Father of John and Thomas and whoever else we have not yet discovered.  Because we we thought there were only 3 in a family there were 4 others but two passed as infants.  So Im expectng to find that John and Thomas have other siblings.  Now it is really strange, Timothy must have done something really bad but not one descendant down to 5 generations even uses Timothy as a name of one of their children.  John has 8 or nine, Thomas has 7, his thomas has 3 by first marriage and 13 by second marriage., our James
has several by first marriage, and one by second,  If he has done that then that would be the excuse or timothy is not their father.

I found a Marriage of a Timothy in st swithuns, worcester for a Mary and two children John and Thomas.  but I had the conception that Thomas was older.  But I dont have a birthdate for him, just a guess.  He is married in 1834 and Thomas in 1840 so he could be five years older so born about  1812 according to the 1851 british census if it is correct.

[MonicaL]

You are doing fine on copyright Trudy, nothing to worry about  If you are quoting information, as I am from censuses, then RC prefer you to include the disclaimer on the copyright issue for information you are posting on here.

I think the Thomas born in Claines is likely to be the right one. You have him in 1851, married with wife away in Scotland visiting, in the right area and occupation.

One way for you to verify is to look at the marriage of Thomas and Janet which will include father's name and occupation for both of them. This shows on freebmd on:

Marriages 4th Qrt 1840   
MEREDITH    Thomas         Liverpool    20   285   
Milligan    Jannet         Liverpool    20   285

There are other names on the entry but what makes me confident that this is the right entry is that there is a number of trees on Ancestry all quoting this marriage with a specific date:

25 October 1840 in Liverpool - Thomas Meredith, aged 30, father Timothy and Janet Millingan, age 24, father William.

You might want to verify this yourself by ordering the marriage extract but looks to fit well with the information that you have so far.

Monica

[MonicaL]

Thomas is also quite precise on his ages for the 1841 and 1851 censuses (31 in 1841 and 41 in 1851) fitting well with that likely 1810 birth.

[MonicaL]

Did Thomas and Janet have a last son Samuel? There is this possible entry for them in 1871 in Liverpool:

Thomas Meredith 61, lamp lighter b. Worcester, Worcestershire
Jennet Meredith 51, b. Scotland
Samuel Meredith 20, son, stone mason b. Liverpool

RG10; Piece: 3809; Folio: 71; Page: 38;

Janet's birth year has got progressively younger over the years 

There is this possible birth for Samuel:

Births 1st Qrt 1852   
Meredith Samuel in West Derby  8b   337

[jenale]

Hi Trudy

We are trying find relatives of Thomas Meredith( his parents were Janet Milligan and Thomas Meredith Snr,)
My husband is from Samoa and we believe that Thomas Meredith is his great,great grandfather,he married twice in Samoa,his first wife Maria Miller Coe and they had 3 children and then when she died he married Mele Poletu IIaou and they had 13 children and their daughter Lousia is my husbands great grandmother.Thomas we think was born in 1841in Scotland and his brother James in 1850 in liverpool.We think James married in Samoa also and had 10 children there.its all very interesting and we would love to hear more of what you know.

[trudym]

Hi Yes thomas was born in 1841 and James in 1857.  Thomas had two wives Maria Miller Coe, daughter of Jonas Coe and Leutu, and yes his second wife was his housekeeper That is correct.  Send me your email on personal message and I will direct you to further information.

Kind regards
Trudy