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The Pines, Pantasaph
« on: Thursday 12 November 09 12:52 GMT (UK) »
Hi Everyone, I am new at all this but am trying to establish the credibility of family stories. Apparently, the pines was occupied by several generations of the Martin family in the early 1900s.
Can any of you wiser people help me with this please?
Thanks Chris M
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Re: The Pines, Pantasaph
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 12 November 09 13:00 GMT (UK) »
Have you traced your family back and had a look in the 1901 and 1911 censuses to see where they were living?
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Re: The Pines, Pantasaph
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 12 November 09 13:15 GMT (UK) »
Hi, George Martin 1881 resident Middlesbrough yorkshire, 1901 still in middlesbrough but wife now her mother in Kenilworth.
Believe that the move would have been in the early 1930s to the pines as my father born 1924 spent some time there recovering from TB.
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Re: The Pines, Pantasaph
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 12 November 09 13:19 GMT (UK) »
Sorry, forgot to say that 1911 census shows still in middlesbrough.
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Re: The Pines, Pantasaph
« Reply #4 on: Friday 13 November 09 11:32 GMT (UK) »
Hello Chris,

Have you any idea what The Pines might have been? Was it a sanatorium possibly?

Reason I ask is that there was not much in Pantasaph, most of the buildings were a monastery and nunnery, plus a few farms.

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Re: The Pines, Pantasaph
« Reply #5 on: Friday 13 November 09 11:36 GMT (UK) »
I see that a search for The Pines produces may "hits". The address is The pines, Monastery Road, Pantasaph, CH8 8PN.

Flintshire Record Office may hold the Electoral Rolls for the 1930s. You might establish the facts that way.

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Re: The Pines, Pantasaph
« Reply #6 on: Friday 13 November 09 13:26 GMT (UK) »
There is a message missing in this sequence.
The Pines was a private house along the road from the monastery and adjacent to the orphanage apparently.
There was a BBC Local website but it has now closed. It made mention of the pines but no further detail
I have checked various listings and it is apparently now the office for a local firm
I have included a photo in case it jogs memories.
Thanks
Chris
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Re: The Pines, Pantasaph
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 14 November 09 22:54 GMT (UK) »
Have  you tried looking for them in earlier censuses?    the date may be out, especially as family stories, whilst a good place to start, can often get mangled over the years.
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Re: The Pines, Pantasaph
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 14 November 09 23:17 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Silvery,
I have done the normal census checks as stated previously.
The history runs that the family for at least 3 generations ran a public/ boarding house in middlesbrough called the Steam Packet Inn, Stockton Street.
At some point unknown but probably between 1924 and perhaps 1934, my Great grandfather was at the pines. I have photos of them there. I also have photos of 3 generations there. But as it is after 1911, I only have folk law to go by.
I suppose the question I am asking is directed more at Flintshire locals as I believe that up until about 10 years ago, the housekeeper was still alive in Pantasaph.
Does anyone have any history relating to the pines?
I am going to contact the current occupiers and also the local archive office (as previously suggested), but it is difficult for me to do more from France.
I appreciate all the help and suggestions from all you Rootschatters on this and other topics I have posted in the last weeks. Thank you all, you are great.
Martin - derrynascobe, carrickmacross, middlesbrough, USA, Canada & New Zealand
Reynolds, Kenilworth
Housiaux, Gent, coventry
Kask, Uk USA
Keeling, Belfast, Canada, UK
Street, Nottingham