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Re: Alexander Forbes & Jane Williams
« Reply #27 on: Sunday 13 October 19 19:42 BST (UK) »


I'd be more inclined to look for what was submitted to UK before they went as the money had to be accounted for from the Budget they had to settle people in the colonies.



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« Reply #28 on: Sunday 13 October 19 20:38 BST (UK) »
Great idea  ;D any ideas on where to look as I find a lot of repetitive information but not thought of the payments made to the UK

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« Reply #29 on: Sunday 13 October 19 23:25 BST (UK) »


On my old computerI had all that stuff for "The Settlement of Canada" and the race/competition between England and France to get it settled in the favour of one or the other.

A lot of wealthy English got huge tracts of land in Canada and Echequer funds then to bring people from Ireland "to help wealthy English landlords in Ireland" clear their estates of their "problem tenants" thus solving 2 problems at same time!!

Each one in England got huge tracts of Land in Canada and from memory had to offer 100 acres in Canada, free travel to Canada and 10.00 to each family giving up their Irish leases.

All these settlers had to be named , numbered, every pound spent on them to get them to Canada and then to "their new land" had to be accounted for!

Again...from memory, something like 70,000 Irish went this route to Canada annually during the Great Famine!  Hence, these Agents did everything as cheaply as possible......used these "coffin ships" and also got back handers from Canada logging companies to make them even richer!

All their Lists/Ledgers went to Treasury. I think Kew has them.





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« Reply #30 on: Monday 14 October 19 00:47 BST (UK) »

Correspondence includes 2 letters written from Cobh, Cork by some settlers from Longford while they were waiting to find out if they could sail and becoming desperate. One is by John Armstrong, possible brother-in-law of Alexander and Edward Forbes and a follow-up letter a couple of weeks later from Ed. Forbes and John and Laurence Armstrong "after selling our small places ".


Were the ones who emigrated reasonably well off?

Not according to those 2 letters written by John Armstrong while they were waiting in Cork in November 1819.
 https://www.eggsa.org/1820-settlers/index.php/pre=1820-letters/a-menu/41-sp-1899969079
After paying for their passage money and travel from Longford, he claimed they had not a penny to keep them from starving on the streets of Cork. He said that some of their group who had spare money had returned home. His reference to "selling our small places" suggests that they had properties or land. Would their "places" have been owned or leased? Occupations included shoemaker (an Armstrong and a Forbes), farmers and a weaver.
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« Reply #31 on: Monday 14 October 19 00:58 BST (UK) »


Trouble with no details is this,,,

Churches in the parish of Templemichael St John (Longford).

Which church??

https://www.ireland.anglican.org/find-a-church/parish/14110/templemichael-st-john-longford



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« Reply #32 on: Monday 14 October 19 14:03 BST (UK) »
The List of Church of Ireland Parish Registers (Updated September 2019)
https://www.ireland.anglican.org/cmsfiles/pdf/AboutUs/library/registers/ParishRegisters/PARISHREGISTERS.pdf
Templemichael, Ardagh diocese, County Longord
Baptisms 1796-1913;  Marriages 1797-1965;  Burials 1796-1943
Original registers held by the Representative Church Body Library, Churchtown, Dublin  (RCBL)
Notes: See also Killoe.

Killoe, Ardagh diocese, County Longford
Baptisms 1829-2000;  Marriages 1829-1845; Burials 1845 only
Original registers held by RCBL
Notes: Earlier records destroyed in 1922.
          Some coverage on RootsIreland.ie
          See also Templemichael
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« Reply #33 on: Monday 14 October 19 14:54 BST (UK) »

 
They were to avail of the first assisted British emigration scheme   which was passed by the British Cabinet in 1819, eighteen years after the Act of Union which united Ireland with Britain, and was aimed at populating the eastern frontier of the Cape of Good Hope in South Africa. In all 90,000 people applied for this scheme and 4,000 eventually sailed in 32 ships, 27 of which sailed from Cork between 27th December, 1819 and August, 1820.


Forbes, Alexander 27 Farmer

Forbes, Edward  27 Farmer, wife Harriet (nee McDowell) 27, children Alexander 2 and Harriet 1.

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« Reply #34 on: Monday 14 October 19 15:09 BST (UK) »


Irish settlers to the Cape : history of the Clanwilliam 1820 settlers from Cork Harbour


https://julufukefisi.ga/1520.php    ??
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« Reply #35 on: Monday 14 October 19 15:34 BST (UK) »



Was A. W.'s age ever determined??

Was he 17..... and maybe younger brother??

Did he marry? When? Age at Death?


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