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Re: Alexander Forbes & Jane Williams
« Reply #54 on: Tuesday 15 October 19 15:36 BST (UK) »

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Re: Alexander Forbes & Jane Williams
« Reply #55 on: Tuesday 15 October 19 15:37 BST (UK) »
Alexander Forbes (1750) and Jane Williams (1760), their baptism and marriage certificates or registry and their parents. I have married 30/09/1780, Templemichael, Longford

Child 1: Alexander Forbes - Just the date of death and a picture of his death notice

He married Jane Thomas (1805) first married Alexander Forbes - Then married Simes

Alexander and Jane had Maria Forbes (My Forbes) (apparently he was married before he left to Elizabeth Clarke and they had a Son John - Some say they died before he left Ireland and others say there is no record of them?)

That is what I am trying to determine what is on record that we can retrieve. As a lot of what I was finding is repetitive and finding baptismal records, birth records etc has proven to be a challenge or may not even exist.

1. Baptisms of Alexander Forbes the elder born c1750 and Jane Williams born c1760 were too early for surviving baptism registers of Templemichael, assuming that they were born there. You said you already have a copy of their marriage.
2. Death of their son, Alexander. The one who died in South Africa, killed during an attack by natives?
3. Alexander's wife, Jane Thomas. Did this marriage happen in S. Africa? Do you know where Jane was from? Was the Simes you mention Jane's 2nd husband, whom she married in S. Africa after Alexander's death?
4. Alexander's wife/wives and children. Is there evidence that Alexander Forbes who had a son, John, baptised in Longford, mother Elizabeth Clarke, was the same Alexander who went to S. Africa? I saw no mention of wife or child in letters re assisted emigration scheme or passenger list. He travelled without a wife or child.  However that doesn't mean they didn't exist. (See my reply #14.)
Alexander's daughter Maria, born to wife, Jane, was born in South Africa; is that correct?
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Re: Alexander Forbes & Jane Williams
« Reply #56 on: Tuesday 15 October 19 15:40 BST (UK) »



....and I know who Scanlan's boss was!!  ;D



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Re: Alexander Forbes & Jane Williams
« Reply #57 on: Tuesday 15 October 19 15:49 BST (UK) »

Will look for

Birth of Child 1: Alexander Forbes (whenever) and His marriage to  Jane Thomas  (whenever)    to see if any further details are on entries!


Alexander's marriage to Jane Thomas might not have been in Ireland.
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Re: Alexander Forbes & Jane Williams
« Reply #58 on: Tuesday 15 October 19 15:56 BST (UK) »


I forgot about Simon's stuff put up in July.

http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/longford/cem.htm


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Re: Alexander Forbes & Jane Williams
« Reply #59 on: Tuesday 15 October 19 16:01 BST (UK) »
The List of Church of Ireland Parish Registers (Updated September 2019)
https://www.ireland.anglican.org/cmsfiles/pdf/AboutUs/library/registers/ParishRegisters/PARISHREGISTERS.pdf
Templemichael, Ardagh diocese, County Longord
Baptisms 1796-1913;  Marriages 1797-1965;  Burials 1796-1943
Original registers held by the Representative Church Body Library, Churchtown, Dublin  (RCBL)
Notes: See also Killoe.

Killoe, Ardagh diocese, County Longford
Baptisms 1829-2000;  Marriages 1829-1845; Burials 1845 only
Original registers held by RCBL
Notes: Earlier records destroyed in 1922.*
          Some coverage on RootsIreland.ie
          See also Templemichael

* To explain the above note for anyone not familiar with Irish genealogy or Irish history.
Some Church of Ireland registers were deposited in the General Records Office which was housed in the former Four Courts building in Dublin. The Four Courts building was badly damaged in 1922 during the Irish Civil War - after a bombardment there was an explosion and fire. Many records were destroyed or damaged including about half of Church of Ireland registers deposited there.
This article on Irish Genealogy Toolkit explains.
https://www.irish-genealogy-toolkit.com/irish-records-burned.html
Irish Genealogy Toolkit website is a helpful guide to researching Irish ancestry.
See also https://www.ireland.anglican.org/about/genealogy
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Re: Alexander Forbes & Jane Williams
« Reply #60 on: Tuesday 15 October 19 16:10 BST (UK) »

Would I be looking for a Marriage c.1814/1816 era for Edward to Harriet McDowell and Baptisms for Alex and Harriet in Longford??

The marriage of Edward & Harriet has already been found. It was 26th Nov. 1815. See Sheila May's original post.
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Re: Alexander Forbes & Jane Williams
« Reply #61 on: Tuesday 15 October 19 16:18 BST (UK) »



http://www.csorp.nationalarchives.ie/search/index.php?category=27

would be the Site that would have any Documentation about their Luxury Cruise to South Africa...or any paperwork submitted.

Unfortunately only a small percentage is online at moment..

Attached is an example of the type of stuff one might get on an individual.

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Re: Alexander Forbes & Jane Williams
« Reply #62 on: Tuesday 15 October 19 16:20 BST (UK) »
#Reply 54. Is it an extract from Thom's directory for Longford town?
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